The Black Hole......

Easy: get yourself a media server...

I strongly agree with you...in principle. I will speak for myself here, although I have done this both for myself and professionally for tens of thousands of CDs, I am still working a job...several in fact, and the time to do this correctly at home is not trivial for many reasons.

Many of these CD-ripping programs do not ensure exact bit-for-bit copying and often operate in RAW mode, copying all sorts of noises and mistrackings.

Perhaps most time consuming is having the correct track naming. Maybe if someone's musical tastes are mainstream, the CD databases available online will be able to look up the ISRC and get the info right, but for me it is hit-or-miss. This requires a huge expenditure of my time to check and name tracks and folders.

The other factor is metadata for the artist, tracks and case artwork. I really like being able to see who played in a song, but acquiring the artwork in a readable fashion is time-consuming. For passive background music use, this is a non-factor, but if one wishes to find out about the artist or recording you end up sitting in front of a PC and looking up the info you want. I would love it if all of that could be automatically displayed on a monitor...I know Pandora/Spotify and others do a very simplified version of this already.

I have set up these systems for radio stations, so I am speaking from years of wasted time...I mean experience. Many mainstream stations merely buy digital music catalogs with metadata to sidestep all of these complications, but this locks them into someone else's idea of music. Neither me or WXYC find this solution acceptable, YMMV! At WXYC we have over 100k pieces of media, and are still playing CDs and vinyl live on the air...I have maybe 5k piece of media at home, and have been unable to allocate the time to transfer these...yet!

Maybe if and when I retire I can dedicate myself to a chore like this...

Cheers!
Howie
 
Is EAC still around for ripping? With a drive that has known settings and offsets it should be easy to get a perfect rip as long as the disc is in good shape. The AccurateRip DB is still around too, right?

Tagging is still a pain point depending on the source and how mainstream your album is.
 
Howie: Thank you. That sort of matched what I was worried you would say. Still annoying when a £50 portable in the kids bedroom plays everything I chuck at it with no complaints. Even Raffe! It's still odd that on a 3CD box all pressed by Sony 2 out of the 3 play and the 3rd one doesn't. unless one of the lines in the plant had a QC issue?


I am almost tempted to get the Marantz CD80 back off my ex. That's 30 years old now and still just works. Weighs a ton mind.



Sigh. Since the CD drive in the old laptop I use for EAC duties died it's a pain as I need to pull out an old desktop CD-R and a pile of cables to adapt it in. Agree about the metadata. Most of it is found, but obscure stuff is hard to find and you can spend an age trying to fix oddities post ripping. Doesn't help that I am lousy at Genres so have no idea where to file things so I have a hope in hell of finding them again. One day I will have to just give in and try Roon.
 
I've noticed that the Apple Music app on iOS does an amazing job of identifying and adding metadata and album art to tracks that are missing it. I'm not sure if it only needs the artist and title or what, but it makes some pretty interesting guesses. Far more aggressive than I've seen with a few apps on my Android phones. Unfortunately I don't think it edits the file metadata. It probably stores it in its own internal database.
 
Is EAC still around for ripping? With a drive that has known settings and offsets it should be easy to get a perfect rip as long as the disc is in good shape. The AccurateRip DB is still around too, right?

Tagging is still a pain point depending on the source and how mainstream your album is.

Hi Chris,

Sure, EAC is still available here. We provided feedback to the developers in the early 2000s regarding player error correction flags. It is a competent program, especially at twice the price (free!). I use it now that my Eclipse dongle timed out...I miss the Image Tools by Eclipse, they really dig deep into data formatting of any color book disc and Eclipse makes the best tools for authoring/copying/verifying/analyzing any of the many color book optical formats.

I know Accurate RIP is still a good operational technology, but I do not know how current it's drive database has been kept...

Cheers!
Howie
 
I don't think I ever mentioned my experience, I stuck an LP rip of a 1966 folk record that I made 20yr. ago into my drive and all the album info suddenly appeared.

Hey Scott!
Did you ever make a copy of that disc? I know some of the compilations I have made have suddenly shown up in the CDDB...my brother had "Submit to CDDB" enabled in his ripping software when he copied it to his HDD...so the ISRC of your original CD-R could be registered there or in one of the other online databases, and many players look up ISRCs automatically when a disc is loaded...

Howie
 
I decided that someone else did all the disk info and as someone told me there are bots that can be used to find copyrighted music that can also be used to ID stuff by looking at the length and number of tracks and even the content. There was nothing to submit to CDDB, I simply ripped from my pre-amp into CoolEdit not even separating tracks.
 

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Now all we need is a toilet paper roll Edison cylinder, or it's long-playing variant, the paper towel roll cylinder...the ultimate in faithful adherence...to antiques.

I worked with the folks at Evatone back in the cassette and CD days (they bought equipment we manufactured), nice folks...but even they admitted the Evatone SoundSheet was, well sheety is a good way to say it. But how else was a TT-playable disc supposed to be bound into a magazine? They made a lot of money for decades with that product. I guess in the same way, the chocolate EP could potentially be included with an issue of Gourmet magazine...

lolol
Howie
 
The new pressed vinyls of old bollywood/Indian classical music are selling good here. Audio CDs of them are not easily available too. Since Music companies here have not preserved Master Tapes or Recordings on Digital format; I have a strong feeling that some Vinyls (as well as CDs) are pressed from MP3s. But People are buying new records and probably listen to them. One thing is sure the attraction to vinyls is inexplicable.

I do listen to old vinyls though. Because reasons mentioned above.

Now all we need is a toilet paper roll Edison cylinder
Haunted Toilet Paper Roll Halloween - YouTube

Regards
 
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