Regarding "shoe" disinfecting -
I just came back from delivering a small package to FedEX and topped up the tank on the way, as there was no line at the station. Wore my balaclava. Hosed everything down with my sprayer before touching, then hands afterward.
Said hello to someone at the opposite pump who replied in kind, then spat his tobacco chew juice (or something) on the concrete in front of the pump.
Maybe the next person who uses that pump over the next few hours accidentally steps in it...
I just came back from delivering a small package to FedEX and topped up the tank on the way, as there was no line at the station. Wore my balaclava. Hosed everything down with my sprayer before touching, then hands afterward.
Said hello to someone at the opposite pump who replied in kind, then spat his tobacco chew juice (or something) on the concrete in front of the pump.
Maybe the next person who uses that pump over the next few hours accidentally steps in it...
Apparantly some fresh stats. Assuming death lags cases by a couple of weeks does not look a good trend.
The biggest issue I can see with any of these stats is that it is impossible for them to be accurate unless every possible case is tested.
Here in BC, Canada that is not happening. I know that for a fact because my eldest daughter quite obviously has all the symptoms. She followed instructions in the local media to go to the urgent care facility and be tested.
They turned her away and told her to stay home for 2 weeks. I know of at last 3 other people (personally) who were told the same thing.
So we can safely ignore the stats regarding number of infected - and the % death rate figures hinge on the the number of infected, so we can ignore the death rate figures too.
Honestly, it is becoming more obvious to me that "they" don't give a **** if this thing spreads or not. Their actions are guaranteeing that it will.
My daughter lives with her boyfriend, so at least our younger daughter hasn't been exposed. She might not do well with this virus.
Got this from the NY Times.
The worries about the economy are legit but I think it may be a little early to have people starting back to work. I think the USA will still be seeing rising numbers of cases and deaths in 2 weeks. It's just starting there and we are far, far, far from herd immunity.
But at the White House, in recent days, there has been a growing sentiment that medical experts were allowed to set policy that has hurt the economy, and there has been a push to find ways to let people start returning to work.
“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” Mr. Trump tweeted in all capital letters shortly before midnight. “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”
The worries about the economy are legit but I think it may be a little early to have people starting back to work. I think the USA will still be seeing rising numbers of cases and deaths in 2 weeks. It's just starting there and we are far, far, far from herd immunity.
She said nobody was coughing or sneezing and it got spread around likely from droplets spewed out when people talk as you can see them in the sunlight! So food gets contaminated that way when your eating together etc.
Sometimes I catch a just-perceptible whiff of another's scent in passing by, even when outside. Given that the virus "spore" is 1 micron in diameter, causes me to wonder if that size is the same order as the pheromones or whatever it is I can smell.
Perhaps if you can smell another person's scent, that's an indicator to back away. Particularly if they're not wearing face coverage.
Regarding "shoe" disinfecting -
I just came back from delivering a small package to FedEX and topped up the tank on the way, as there was no line at the station. Wore my balaclava. Hosed everything down with my sprayer before touching, then hands afterward.
Said hello to someone at the opposite pump who replied in kind, then spat his tobacco chew juice (or something) on the concrete in front of the pump.
Maybe the next person who uses that pump over the next few hours accidentally steps in it...
On I-80 last week, near Lewisburg PA (nearby home of Bucknell and the drive-through dairy/beer distributor) folks were pumping gas, then going back into the WAWA to wash their hands.
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Perhaps if you can smell another person's scent, that's an indicator to back away. Particularly if they're not wearing face coverage.
Perhaps an indicator that it is probably already too late.
Said hello to someone at the opposite pump who replied in kind, then spat his tobacco chew juice (or something) on the concrete in front of the pump.
Ignorance is bliss.😱
Honestly, it is becoming more obvious to me that "they" don't give a sh!t if this thing spreads or not. Their actions are guaranteeing that it will.
That is why the government is telling everyone for stay home.😕
jeff
Ignorance is bliss.😱
That is why the government is telling everyone for stay home.😕
jeff
Suggesting people stay home only works if people listen. I've heard from multiple sources that a certain percentage of people don't believe the hype or are too stupid/selfish so they are just going about their business or enjoying the time off by taking road trips or going golfing.
We already know what works. Lock things down (enforced), test all suspected cases and isolate all confirmed cases.
We are falling way short on all of these.
Oh yes, they're on a jolly and have been made very unwelcome here and elsewhere, I blame the government, don't they know how stupid and selfish people really are? Coronavirus: 'Unprecedented' crowds in Wales despite warnings - BBC News
It was found just over 100 years ago with the Spanish flue that places/cities that locked down etc. had many less die.
A certain % just won't listen or get it for sure!
Everyone likely has to do what they did in China to stop and contain it.
A certain % just won't listen or get it for sure!
Everyone likely has to do what they did in China to stop and contain it.
It was found just over 100 years ago with the Spanish flue that places/cities that locked down etc. had many less die.
A certain % just won't listen or get it for sure!
Necessary to repeat: 90% of the deaths from the 1918 Influenza Epidemic were from post-secondary infections.
Necessary to repeat: 90% of the deaths from the 1918 Influenza Epidemic were from post-secondary infections.
^ and from a massive lack in complementary infrastructure. Food/shelter/sanitary waste.
It's a totally different beast in many ways. BUT there are public health lessons here that are valuable to learn from.
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Necessary to repeat: 90% of the deaths from the 1918 Influenza Epidemic were from post-secondary infections.
And, if you didn't get the primary infection there was no secondary infection.
CL02 is being used at our workplace as a disinfectant. I'm not sure how often they are processing the facility. The company applying it claims a higher a Germicidal Activity compared to Hypochlorite.
Thanks for that info. One available product is "Tristel" (UK company), although the company requires "contact us" in order to purchase, which I assume means "no", particularly if you want to buy some for personal use. See https://www.tristel.com/
Wikipedia info: "It is more effective as a disinfectant than chlorine in most circumstances against waterborne pathogenic agents such as viruses, bacteria and protozoa –"
"Chlorine dioxide may be used as a fumigant treatment to "sanitize" fruits such as blueberries, raspberries, and strawberries that develop molds and yeast."
"Chlorine dioxide can be used for air disinfection and was the principal agent used in the decontamination of buildings in the United States after the 2001 anthrax attacks."
I wont bore anyone further, but sounds like it could be useful in the current circumstances. If you could only get it at the dollar store, just like ordinary bleach -
And, if you didn't get the primary infection there was no secondary infection.
No, the reason is that there were no antibiotics of consequence at that time.
Having just spend a considerable time in Arizona*, I would think that the natural large spaces and large distances between towns, and between houses in streets, would help to slow down the spread.
People still meet in restaurants, but these are closed down now, maybe in supermarkets, but not so closely to each other as in more crowded nations. Of course, NYC is another story altogether ...
Jan
*I just got back home in time to get locked up here ...
People still meet in restaurants, but these are closed down now, maybe in supermarkets, but not so closely to each other as in more crowded nations. Of course, NYC is another story altogether ...
Jan
*I just got back home in time to get locked up here ...
Thankfully the UK government has finally got their act together, what amounts to a "lockdown" Coronavirus latest news: Boris Johnson announces three-week UK lockdown
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