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There really is a conspiracy, I just can't tell you what it is about, as you are not a member of the right group!

Now to be a true DIYer has anyone tried an ABX test of tin foil hats? Only way to be sure they aren't actually doing something!

😉 😉 😉

Even worse, how about a double blind test on a corona virus claim of the proposed preventive effect of drinking cow urine!!!!

I do not insist on double blind testing, as I use hear something and see what measures differently as my standard.

It seems it is also possible to have fun poking some proposed ideas over the edge.
 
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.... Now to be a true DIYer has anyone tried an ABX test of tin foil hats? ...

Yes, some guys at MIT did some instrumented tests. IIRC, they found that tin foil hats are actually cunningly effective at amplifying mind control beams, and I think they might have also found that paranoids were especially susceptible ...

The article is surely still out there somewhere on the internet. Definitely a fun read.

edit: http://web.archive.org/web/20100708230258/http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
 
I'm only a pedestrian in the genetics area.
The paper has several mentions of 'we do not believe' type of wording.
I guess my point is we were told early by biomedia that impossible for c19 to
have manipulated (intentional or not) origins but Nature's article shows the possible path.So now I'm not sure what to believe.

In fact, I know a couple of the authors, and I know what they are trying to get across in this correspondence (not a paper, no original data). They are being scientists and considering every option as possible and pulling the logical threads necessary for each possibility. Unfortunately, to a lay person, this sounds like they are giving credence to the conspiracy theories. They are not, they are just using standard, wishy washy science speak. But the point of the article is that it is not from a laboratory.

This virus is not man made! Neither was SARS, or any other virus for the matter. We can't do it. Not that we can't manipulate genetic sequences, but we can't do it in a way that would ever "make a new virus". We can take pieces from other viruses and hope that they work the same way, which they usually don't.

The sequence of a virus doesn't just make protein. It makes many proteins from a single RNA, splices the RNA, has RNA binding domains for host and viral regulatory proteins, cleaves and ligates the RNA in rate and temporal limited ways, packages the RNA selectively in the core while also bound to host proteins, binds other RNAs both large and small for regulation, hides from RNA detection mechanisms, localizes in specific cellular compartments, and many more things we don't know about. All with sequences and motifs that completely overlap with one another and have multiple simultaneous functions. Please trust me when I say, we aren't anywhere remotely close to being able to design something functional like that.

For that matter, if you have any specific questions about the article that could be better explained, I would be happy to go into more detail. Like, why did they say this then? Or what does this mean in context?
 
The USA has now moved up one step in number of cases of CV19. We now surpassed France.

I suspect the USA will bloom soon as we are given advice NOT to wear masks, and given other poor advice such as Trump saying you can work even if you don't feel well as long as you aren't running a fever.
 

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Sad is 475 deaths from the virus yesterday in italy alone
Sad is rows of trench graves in Iran


Hope is that the scientific community is allowed to get on with their research and given the resources they need to work out how to best tackle things.



Words in press conferences count for little to me. It's hard not to feel helpless for those of us who cannot contribute beyond staying at home...
 
Almost everything is shut down except essential services but curiously the Gov't liquor store remain open.

Oh wait, that's an essential service, silly me.

Ironically, in all the hoarding I have been doing for the last several weeks, I have not bought an ounce of booze, because I hoard that year round, stocking up the 2 to 3 times a year that I see a rock bottom price sale.
 
Ironically, in all the hoarding I have been doing for the last several weeks, I have not bought an ounce of booze, because I hoard that year round, stocking up the 2 to 3 times a year that I see a rock bottom price sale.

Just an FYI, alcohol SEVERELY weakens the immune system while in the blood. If you are fully quarantined, whatever. But, as a rule of principle, me and my friends never drink when someone around us is sick. Sorry to use all caps and be a buzzkill :ashamed: Especially considering I'm about as Irish as you get.
 
Just an FYI, alcohol SEVERELY weakens the immune system while in the blood. If you are fully quarantined, whatever. But, as a rule of principle, me and my friends never drink when someone around us is sick. Sorry to use all caps and be a buzzkill :ashamed: Especially considering I'm about as Irish as you get.

I already knew that. But it is valuable to repeat and emphasize that.

Some liquor stores are starting to close here, but as it's only a few I assume they are doing it on a purely financial criteria.
 
In the UK nothing seems to be happening fast.

I've seen a few things online, that seems to indicate that London at least may be quarantined by the weekend.

I assume if the cases keep rising at the same rate following that action, that UK gov will extend the quarantine.

I have been assessed for my chronic asthma (which I have neglected for a few years) and I have been told I am low risk, so I must carry on working and cannot isolate. Yet.
 
So, I haven't been out much in the last few weeks and decided to go check out the scene.

Wow! It's not quite a ghost town but mostly the only cars in parking lots are at the drug or food stores. I decided to go see how things were at the liquor store. Got there just before opening and it looked like New Years Eve. There was a fairly long line up and it appeared everyone was doing the social distancing thing.

That all changed when the gate was opened. I stood back and waited till everyone was in. I used a dog bag as a glove to pick things up and placed it on top of my stuff when leaving. I came home, washed, then washed all items in a hot soapy sink for a bit and did not rinse off the bubbles for about 15 minutes. The reusable cloth bag I used is now in quarantine for at least two days, well away from us. The doggie bag is washed and in quarantine as well.

I was about to say this is all new to me when I realized, it's all new to everyone.
 
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