You've been a member here for almost 9 years so I thought that you would understand what level matched DBT is. Perhaps this video will be beneficial to you.So what? I'm curious if you can describe a specific taste by reading measurements. Do you have the data of a specific double blind test, where the listener can guess the nature of the measurement abnormally?
I'll answer you the other way around. I never know of an audio component which doesn't make an audible difference from the other. So, I'm just curious. What kind of criteria/measurements should an audio component fulfill to be transparently inaudible?
All the blind tests I've participated in were level matched, because power cord, speaker cables and interconnects were tested and the rest of the equipment would remain untouched. Mostly we would do single blind tests, sometimes double, with only a few swaps, then a break would follow. Then, another few swaps, etc. Warming up in order to familiarize the listeners with the components being tested on the specific music tracks being played was of extreme importance. Otherwize beating a blind test was always hard to impossible, most of the listeners being unaware of the sound features to listen to.
From your POV only.
It's my last post in this thread. Others are getting angry.
This fits in with all that other "audiophile snake oil" crap that's been going on for a few decades now, and it's a shame, honestly.
At least it doesn't have a switch mode supply...
"Motivational salience is composed of two component processes that are defined by their attractive or aversive effects on an individual's behavior relative to a particular stimulus: incentive salience and aversive salience"
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You've been a member here for almost 9 years so I thought that you would understand what level matched DBT is. Perhaps this video will be beneficial to you.
When someone says everything is audible there not looking for proof.
A truth that one has discovered will be evident to others as well...
As has always been the case with people who hear small differences, it is evident to everyone who hears the exact same thing. The people that do are the peer group.
People who don't listen carefully are not the peers of those who do.
What you want to say is everyone who perceives the exact...As has always been the case with people who hear small differences, it is evident to everyone who hears the exact same thing.
What you want to say is everyone who perceives the exact...
Perception visual or auditory occurs "in the moment" then its onto another perception. Lasting memory of what one really perceived is where the snake oil sales exploit. Because nobody really remembers what they perceived quantifiably, only that it might be "different" than another time, if both are not obviously distorted. Its all just relative to ones "reference du jour". When the optometrist flips lenses to fit one for glasses, that perception of the final two lenses he flipped is a very small improvement. If one had to tell the optometrist tomorrow which of those last two lens flips was clearer instead of in a millisecond, they couldnt do it. Sound is similarly perceived. Snake oil exploits memory, psychology and human weakness, addiction, etc. It has little to do with anything objective.
The optometrist analogy is an interesting one, they no longer ask which is clearer because they can see the retina themselves, imagine if that could be done with sound 😉 Probably not technically accurate, but you get my drift....
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...nobody really remembers what they perceived quantifiably...
You probably mean you never met such a person. They exist.
Claim with no mention of names. That will go well. 🙄They exist.
A person brings a 1960's stereo console or a 1971 stereo receiver into my shop for whatever reasons.
To them, it "sounds fine" and "just needs" a little service - like a blown dial light, or a scratchy volume control.
They insist that it sounds wonderful otherwise.
What they don't know is - the sound quality that THEY ARE USED TO is compromised.
Deteriorating parts, aging - is so gradual that human perception (along with aging hearing) follows this.
Time after time, after I've done the servicing needed, including replacing those tired parts, done a full alignment, when they come to pick their stuff up, they are amazed at the difference.
Of course, it's a substantial and obvious difference.
To them, it "sounds fine" and "just needs" a little service - like a blown dial light, or a scratchy volume control.
They insist that it sounds wonderful otherwise.
What they don't know is - the sound quality that THEY ARE USED TO is compromised.
Deteriorating parts, aging - is so gradual that human perception (along with aging hearing) follows this.
Time after time, after I've done the servicing needed, including replacing those tired parts, done a full alignment, when they come to pick their stuff up, they are amazed at the difference.
Of course, it's a substantial and obvious difference.
It was ‘better’ ..... right? 😀
Change is always better.
A person brings a 1960's stereo console or a 1971 stereo receiver into my shop for whatever reasons.
To them, it "sounds fine" and "just needs" a little service - like a blown dial light, or a scratchy volume control.
They insist that it sounds wonderful otherwise.
What they don't know is - the sound quality that THEY ARE USED TO is compromised.
Deteriorating parts, aging - is so gradual that human perception (along with aging hearing) follows this.
Time after time, after I've done the servicing needed, including replacing those tired parts, done a full alignment, when they come to pick their stuff up, they are amazed at the difference.
Of course, it's a substantial and obvious difference.
There is a good deal of truth to this. My dad used the same Sony Trinitron TV for hours every day for almost 20 years. By the time he replaced it, the convergence was so bad you couldn't read text on a news channel anymore but it looked alright to him because it had happened over a period of years. If it had gone from perfect to bitched in one day, he surely would have noticed.
Happens with stylus change, and also some people have very dirty looking glasses, which I point out to them, and they are surprised at how much better they can see after a clean..
There seems to be a Matt Murdock in NYC (of some particular universe).... no mention of names....
It so true, but if you don't have any technical abilities to judge what you are buying this is the only thing that motivate the buying reflex.No.....change is not always better!
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