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Lighten up guys, Millwood is just fooling around. I've only been here for a few days now, but it seems obvious to me that when the discussion isn't going the way he wants it to go, he just turns into a regular clown :clown:

Joking around, or just making fun in a corny kind of way, but when the topic concerns the US, most of his efforts seem to be directed to provoking ppl while squalling the US is the best in everything among everyone.

Better than the bestest in all the world, right Woody? :cheerful:
 
I am sure it's the US' fault too, 🙂

"Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam", per NYT today.

"They say they would like to see Prime Minister Tony Blair dead or deposed and an Islamic flag hanging outside No. 10 Downing Street.

They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the "Magnificent 19" and regard the Madrid train bombings as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe."

Maybe we should answer that with more appeasement?

BTW, did anyone read Aznar's piece in a major US paper today?

till, you still haven't told me with authority what "conservative" newspapers I read, tho. you were so sure of me reading them.
 
millwood said:

could it be that there is a selection bias? those going to germany / europe tend to be more liberal (Clinton for example). admiring European's democracy might be a reason of them being there. so asking those guys to compare the US vs. the Europeans isn't exactly scientific.

But I guess that's too much to ask for this crowd.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1082721888289070.xml
hey mill, any comments?
the officers were not punished in any way, nor did they apologize.

I guess the tow were elder terrorists 😡
 
millie, is that your homepage? are you his Mr. butt head?

roibm,
lets hope the amerikan system works and they manage to get rid of this violent and lowbrained white trash folks. Send to iraq or another bad enemy country with the army , and be shot, dieing as a hero, or will die few years later from the uranium dust inhalated there. All in all its nothing more than a very intelligent plan to manage the crisis to have too many idiots in your population.
 
Re: I am sure it's the US' fault too, 🙂

millwood said:
"Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam", per NYT today.

"They say they would like to see Prime Minister Tony Blair dead or deposed and an Islamic flag hanging outside No. 10 Downing Street.

They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the "Magnificent 19" and regard the Madrid train bombings as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe."

Maybe we should answer that with more appeasement?



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GOEBBELS' PRINCIPLES OF PROPAGANDA
Based upon Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda by Leonard W. Doob, published in Public Opinion and Propaganda; A Book of Readings edited for The Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues.

1. Propagandist must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion.

2. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.
a. It must issue all the propaganda directives.

b. It must explain propaganda directives to important officials and maintain their morale.

c. It must oversee other agencies' activities which have propaganda consequences

3. The propaganda consequences of an action must be considered in planning that action.

4. Propaganda must affect the enemy's policy and action.
a. By suppressing propagandistically desirable material which can provide the enemy with useful intelligence

b. By openly disseminating propaganda whose content or tone causes the enemy to draw the desired conclusions

c. By goading the enemy into revealing vital information about himself 😉

d. By making no reference to a desired enemy activity when any reference would discredit that activity

5. Declassified, operational information must be available to implement a propaganda campaign

6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium.

7. Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.

8. The purpose, content and effectiveness of enemy propaganda; the strength and effects of an expose; and the nature of current propaganda campaigns determine whether enemy propaganda should be ignored or refuted.

9. Credibility, intelligence, and the possible effects of communicating determine whether propaganda materials should be censored.

10. Material from enemy propaganda may be utilized in operations when it helps diminish that enemy's prestige or lends support to the propagandist's own objective.

11. Black rather than white propaganda may be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects.

12. Propaganda may be facilitated by leaders with prestige.

13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.
a. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.

b. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment

c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness

14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses


b. They must be capable of being easily learned

c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations

d. They must be boomerang-proof

15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.

16. Propaganda to the home front must create an optimum anxiety level.
a. Propaganda must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat

b. Propaganda must diminish anxiety (other than concerning the consequences of defeat) which is too high and which cannot be reduced by people themselves

17. Propaganda to the home front must diminish the impact of frustration.
a. Inevitable frustrations must be anticipated

b. Inevitable frustrations must be placed in perspective

18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.

19. Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.
 
I am sure it's the US' fault too,

No millwood it's these "TERRORISTS" 😱 fault

From the BBC

More than 50 former British diplomats have signed a letter to Tony Blair criticising his Middle East policy.

The 52 ambassadors said it was time for the prime minister to start influencing America's "doomed" policy in the Middle East or stop backing it.

They told Mr Blair they had "watched with deepening concern" as Britain followed the US lead in Iraq and Israel and called for a debate in Parliament

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3660529.stm
 
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