SynTripP: 2-way 2-part Virtual Single Point Source Horn

I am a little green with measurements. Doing some research to know what to do...

Thanks again Art.

The Aussie SynTripP project is, so far, a great success.

We will be building another 5 (six in total, four loaded with drivers this summer, two more cut for use later if we need them)

We will be fine tuning the construction plans, including recommendations for cutting order and labelling important angles for setting up machines.

Merry Christmas Everyone.
 
Fin,

As previously stated, the 10" bandpass ports are as close to the throat as possible, the 10" drivers are almost touching the HF driver mounting plate.

Check out the charts in post #1 and #9 (and probably several others) to see raw and crossed over responses.

Since you have access to (2!) real lathes, you could make filler plates that would fill even more area of the cone volume, which would raise the upper band pass of the 10" a bit higher than the original build.

Art

Would there be any logic to casting this plug and cementing it in place?
 
Art: Have you had a chance to test that Eminence compression driver yet?
Fin,

Yes, reported findings in post #165.
Below is the response of the Eminence N314T compared to the (first purchased) Celestion CDX14-3050 both on a Maltese conical horn.

Art
 

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I ran them for 12 hours at 20 hz. And another 12 hours of pink noise. 10 watts each.

A lot of the harshness dissolved away when running them with music at some 115 db for a few hours.

I am guessing there were some harmonics of the 81hz tuning of the cabinet bouncing around inside.

I expect that will clean up more with the sound dampening.
 
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Hi All!

The build is going well. I was going to hold off posting anything more so as not to make a mess of the thread for those who will read this in future.

We are paining now, all parts have arrived, and we are working on mounting them. (our mounts are different in requirement, we are actually flying two of them!)

The plans will be revisited in Feb when the festival is over.

For now, its busy time finishing the build, and getting ready to roll out!

Will post pictures of the artcar with the SynTripP array on board late Jan!
 

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Not the right thread for this question, but can anyone send a link to the right way to set volumes on the amps?

My current method will be:
  1. Calculate theoretical output (power v's impedence = voltage)
  2. Send a sin wave to the mixer.
  3. Set the output of the mixer to the level djs play at.
  4. Set the DSP gain to minimum (no sound)
  5. Set the amps to max.
  6. Bring up the DSP gain until the output of the amps is at the theoretical max.
  7. Set limiters so they kick in when the output of the mixer goes higher that 'normal'.

NOTES:
  • DJ's all play up to the red. Our mixer is 12db max, well below clipping of the dsp so ok with that. Typically it runs at 6-9db.
  • If I set the amps to full, and adjust the max volume via the dsp, that should mitigate accidental volume increases that could blow compression drivers. (at the cost of S/N ration)
 
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WOW!

They work amazingly...!!!

We had 600 people stay for 5 hours. We watched the moon set in front of us, and half an hour later the sun rise behind us!

Emancipator came and played sunrise!

Our system was louder than a four way single stack Funktion One, and was substantially cleaner. Far less distortion. Superb sound. We made the huge F1 arrays sound crap by comparison.

We used two for mains, and two for the DJ fills. Supported by two XoC1 TH18's Loaded with B&C 18SW115 drivers.

The Fills were running at a lower volume to fill in the front section of the dancefloor where the main horns were unable to reach. Beautiful sound everywhere, though I need a second DSP for the fills to align the timing...

They roll off at 80hz naturally, but even at 115 db the mid drivers are still only moving a few mm p-p. At painful volume levels It's quite remarkable how little the drivers move. I think 4mm p-p was about it at program power of the drivers, and far louder than I dared to stick my head near.

They need 4" of fiberglass to get the resonance out of the box, but other than that they are flawless. They looked great panted pink and black!

As usual, I am slack at taking pics....waiting for others to put some up!
 

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Here is an example of the size of crowd the syntripps provided for with delightful ease!

It's a video from a mobile phone, but you get the drift...

If you have facebook you can see this video from the Thursday Night party at Rainbow Serpent Festival.

We are not officially a part of Rainbow Serpent, we are a renegade sound system that operates independently. This is the party we threw the night before the festival officially started.

Notice the people behind the speakers are still rockin out! The recording is from behind the syntripp. If you can try to hear through a mobile phone mic recording and remember it's compressed...you can see it's still clean as the source sound was very clean!

https://www.facebook.com/ben.pullin1/videos/10153919537264345/?fref=nf
 
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