Stop the War!, Congress is saying!

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There's a misconception, common in Europe, that the padding is for protection. In general, it isn't, it's a weapon. Those pads are made from VERY hard material; with them on, you can hit someone much harder than you could without them.

Admittedly, the cup is protection. But I'll bet even the he-men who play rugby (Europe's finest sport) wear them.
 
Tall Shadow said:


On the contrary, I did exactly mean to compare them to roaches. They plan their terrorism in dark out of the way places and run when the light of day is shone upon them. Sounds like what roaches dare like to me.

As far as dehumanizing them, I'd say terrorists have dehumanized themselves too much already. And as such, should be removed from where ever they are found to be, expediently.

War is the only factual way to make a lasting peace. Peace, lasting peace is NEVER the result of sitting down and negotiating between opposing forces. NEVER has been, NEVER will be. Read history, look to the past. It's a FACT. Dispute what I say, do the research, check the history books your self. You might not like it, but the proof is all there for the looking. Would I like it to be otherwise, Yes. I have children too, but I am not foolish enough to preach the fantasy that "Peace is the answer!" or "No War!" or any of the other unrealistic catch phrases that people want to force into the news again. Thinking that these methods will work "THIS TIME", when they, throughout history, haven't EVER worked before, is asinine.
I need not justify war. History Justifies it quite well.

"Pleasure in Conquest" is not what war is about. War is about definitively resolving, irreconcilable differences between two or more forces. In my view, there is no "Pleasure in Conquest". There is only the knowledge that once the war is over, the peace can begin in earnest.

As far as trading "Pleasure in Conquest" for "Innocent lives".

I do not wish the innocent harm, no one that I know ever does. However, in war innocent people do die, yet as even you have stated, war is necessary, therefore, innocent people will die.

I don't want My children/grandchildren to have to face these terrorists, I want them to enjoy their liberty and freedom. If some people think I am a "hick", or "Nut case" because of this, that's not my problem.

"They that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

Tall Shadow

May as well just use American freedom to fuel-air bomb Iraq to rubble then since that is the best way to obliterate the roaches. Solve irreconcilable differences with a marriage partner using a .44 cal slug. Oppress others in the name of freedom; force them to be free.
Misleading the public about WMD to start an elective war is tyrannical and what Ben Franklin was against.
 
SY said:
There's a misconception, common in Europe, that the padding is for protection. In general, it isn't, it's a weapon. Those pads are made from VERY hard material; with them on, you can hit someone much harder than you could without them.

Admittedly, the cup is protection. But I'll bet even the he-men who play rugby (Europe's finest sport) wear them.
Better fork this discussion if you wanna go further with the sport thing 😉
 
subwo1 said:


May as well just use American freedom to fuel-air bomb Iraq to rubble then since that is the best way to obliterate the roaches. Solve irreconcilable differences with a marriage partner using a .44 cal slug. Oppress others in the name of freedom; force them to be free.
Misleading the public about WMD to start an elective war is tyrannical and what Ben Franklin was against.


Our mission in Iraq is not to bomb these people into the stone age with fuel-air bombs. If that was so, then Iraq and every Iraqi person would be a memory as of April 2003. Why do you think our Marines are on a street by street, house by house urban mission? That is a much more dangerous plan for our soldiers then just reducing Fallujah to rubble, which is a lot easier. There are a lot of people here that would have rather neutron bomb Fallujah, then the only challenge would be to pick up all the bodies before they rott and stink in the streets. Wouldn't even rubblize the city.:cannotbe: Our soldiers would not have to be put in such danger then. This, of course, is rediculous. Despite what the appeasement media outlets say, we are not terrorists. If the terrorists had one of these wepons, they would not hesitate to use it on any city in the world, even yours. Instead we are sending our boys into harms way to exterminate these roaches room by room, house by house, street by street. We aren't the ones who overtook a children's school in Beslan and delibertly shot and stabbed women and little children in the back. That was a sickening incident.

Tyranny??? Lecture me about tyranny in the face of these people(Islamic Facists...radicals...terrorists)?? Your out of your mind.

Ahhh the poor man's warfare...Terrorism.

Keep this in mind... Terrorism is the poor man's warfare, just like Rape is the ugly man's courtship.:att'n:
 
cunningham said:
And how many of these are blamed on the terrorist? or on Maqutada al Sader?

Less than 1000


cunningham said:
naw, Never to blame the terrorists.... and yes if "Jhonny Bagdad" or "Timmy Afgan" had the means to attack us, he would without a second thought. As a matter of fact, he did. 9/11/01

:hypno2: :hypno2: :hypno2: :hypno2: :hypno2: :hypno2:

What a load of ****

There is NO EVIDENCE that OBL had anything to do with 9/11 let alone women and children from two different countrys

There wern't any terrorest in Iraq befor you got there anyway
 
To cunningham and Tall Shadow

Consider this hypothetical situation:

Canada's most wanted terrorist has managed to make his way into the United States and has taken you and your family hostage. You have a choice between allowing his escape while you and your family live or all of you dying together. There are no other choices. Which do you choose?

Expanding the situation further, the Canadian military has pursued the terrorist into the US (you live very near the border) to your home. Do you believe that the Canadian government should be able to make this choice for you and your family? They are well within their rights to destroy your home with you and the terrorists inside, yes? The Canadians would merely be doing their part in the war on terror, after all.

Any equivocating just shows the moral bankruptcy of your position. This is exactly what is happening in Iraq. There are relatively few actual terrorists, but they have inserted themselves among families and real people, just like you and me.

Saying that it's better to be happening over there than in America is simply saying that American lives are worth more than Iraqi lives? Do you believe that? If you do, maybe you should leave America. To find out why, read the Declaration of Independence. Hint: it doesn't say all American men are created equal...
 
Those damn terrorists will always win us!

Because their game is dirty as a hell.
They have no Uniforms...no identification
They have no Countries...no identification
They have no flag, no face, no color, no size...no identification
They can smile to you when entering a knife into your stomach.

This way, can never win, they do not surrender, they have not only one responsible, one Boss, one General...they are everywhere, since the ones send money, to the ones send informs...normal people, living at your side, in your square in big Cities, owning some Restaurant, driving some car.

We had dirty terrorism here, the year was around 1600...Holand people was in one elevation, some fortification, and shield, with heavy armored clothes...under the sun rising hard, temperature not confortable to stay nude, imagine with armoured clothes....and the native Brazilians going there to attack them...all day waiting....nothing..... the sun was cooking their brains....and nothing happened.... were attacked with small knives. at nigth...when sleeping, some strikes made dayligth too the next day and the followed days.

Holland people was proud and decent warriors...they were aligned to figth, stand and waiting.

This battle strategy do not work with our people, as could not face clever Vietnam people.... not figthing this way.... with clear rules...you against me...not trick!..... this do not work anymore, cannot say.... walk ten steps, turn and shot.....your enemie will turn first step and shot you backwards!....this is terrorism, in my idea, this kind of war is already gain by those damn terrorists...as you can not find them to kild them...only exploding whole planet earth!...including your own country.

This is a already lost battle.

Have to understand deep the reasons, the motivations, and do what they want.... the only possibility to "win" that war, i cannot perceive other way..... If Israel is the problem.... the intervention must go there....if Gaza.... go there..... if troops in Afeghanistan, retire troops, if trops in Iraqi.... retire troops... this way will win that war....interesting.....the only solution to Win is Loose.....those interestings thing in life.... Love and hate are together..... the internal body results are the same.....Loose to Win is possible....and Win to Loose is possible too.

U.S. trops Win to Loose in Iraqi, in Afghanistan....Israel is Winning to loose in Palestinian region.

Must loose to win....wake up people!..... some few crazy fanatics made the mass you all saw in NYC......the dirty strategie is the one that will ever win....must loose to win.

I think, this is deeply clever...i do not know if your pride will let you use your brain..... i am afraid......hummmm... do not know...but...... you are showing me.....

regards all guys

I feel very, very, very, much sorry for you all... sometimes i turn myself nervous, when i see those things happening and an entire country pride, making you going down.

Already lost the entire world confidence...and to recuperate must lost your pride.

Carlos
 
I made some good friendly relations with some moderators

But i do not like to see the ones that are taking care of us..... alike big brothers.

To control, to regulate, to avoid excesses, to follow forum rules...all this is aceptable for my culture.

But not showing me the face....hummmm, hidden alike terrorists

Always some image...no one put the face....had one...Yes, had one that put his owm picture.

My culture say that this is not fair..... everything we do, we must show our face and signature.... maybe, sometimes to receive some tomatos or eggs flying too.

regards,

Carlos
 
Ok, let me rephrase this, appropriate content for an audience wishing to learn about diy audio, not porn, not racism, etc, etc.

The OT area is a good way to get people to know and understand each other, but still exists within the overall ethics of DIYaudio, and basically that means be nice, and respect others opinions...
 
We don't censor the truth, just remove inappropriate content for an audio website

Thats how YOU call it.


I remeber very good to be sinbinned for posting a non porn non racism picture that was published in official german newspapers before - because some pro bushists mods did not like it.

Racism is something i read in lots of posting here around - and no mod cares about. All those anti islamistic biased fanatic bushists postings telling arabs are relatred to 911 or terrorism are racistic. Only becasue it is the official propaganda in some powerfull countries at this time - it is not good and not true.
 
AudioFreak said:
Guys, the rules are simple and they are not hard to play by. If you can't be happy with that I might just have to remove OT completely and trash OT posts when they appear in the other forums rather than moving them here .... so tell me, which do you prefer?
My way or the highway 😉
I don't need no OT but it's nice to have it :angel:
 
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