Indeed.The leaks can be extraordinarily expensive...
My best friend's next door neighbor (lives in a condo) had water seeping through the cinderblock dividing wall into my friend's home.
The neighbor didn't even notice the leak until my friend told her.
Apparently, the nice new refrigerator of hers sprung a leak in its water feedline in the freezer.
A guy called the other day and asked if my refrigerator was running...
I said, I sure hope so, none of the other candidates are that cool.
I said, I sure hope so, none of the other candidates are that cool.
Like so many things I have gained in my life thinking I didn't need, let alone want, I have come to realize the ice maker in the fridge is a godsend. I use it numerous times a day even when it's cold out. The only time I can handle ice trays now are when I'm camping. Oh the humanity of having to do it manually. Sacre Bleu!Thanks, but I don't find it a horrible task to fill or take out a cube tray for ice.
Oh well Cal, I do hope you have good luck with your icemaker, seriously.
But as for me, and being retired, I don't mind taking things slow or going the "old school" way.
The rush rush rush, and "labor saving devices" like that seemed to have become the masses way of life.
Not that it's a bad thing mind you, but some things have made the masses dumber IMO.
Hell, I still pay my bills by sitting down at the dining room secretary and writing checks.
It's been the trusted way since the beginning, and it gives me something to do anyway.
I don't feel the need to become lazy bones and mindless with auto-pay online stuff.
That's why in my previous post I like my individuality to stay intact.... and avoid becoming "one of the crowd".
No Fakebook, Twitbrain, Insta-damn social media crap for me.
But as for me, and being retired, I don't mind taking things slow or going the "old school" way.
The rush rush rush, and "labor saving devices" like that seemed to have become the masses way of life.
Not that it's a bad thing mind you, but some things have made the masses dumber IMO.
Hell, I still pay my bills by sitting down at the dining room secretary and writing checks.
It's been the trusted way since the beginning, and it gives me something to do anyway.
I don't feel the need to become lazy bones and mindless with auto-pay online stuff.
That's why in my previous post I like my individuality to stay intact.... and avoid becoming "one of the crowd".
No Fakebook, Twitbrain, Insta-damn social media crap for me.
"labor saving devices"
I just get my servants to gather snow and ice during the winter and store it in my straw-lined, underground ice house! 😉
Considering that one out of a hundred online credit card transactions results in a hack, it ends up being less work in the end. If I paid all my bill online, I would need a new credit card every three months instead of every two years. And go through the hassle of sorting it out with everyone who was supposed to get paid and didn’t.Hell, I still pay my bills by sitting down at the dining room secretary and writing checks.
It's been the trusted way since the beginning, and it gives me something to do anyway.
I don't feel the need to become lazy bones and mindless with auto-pay online stuff.
Exactly!Considering that one out of a hundred online credit card transactions results in a hack, it ends up being less work in the end. If I paid all my bill online, I would need a new credit card every three months instead of every two years. And go through the hassle of sorting it out with everyone who was supposed to get paid and didn’t.
Thank you.
I was going to include that fact in my post, but considered it an already widely known issue.
Like I said, I'm basically glued to staying "traditional" about things - much safer in most instances.
Actually, when I was just a young tot, in the 1950's, I remember playing out on the front porch and seeing The Iceman's truck stopping at some people's homes.Wiseold and I are just about old enough to remember the Ice Harvest!![]()
We, of course, had a "modern" electric Fridgidaire.
And I remember the little metal crate thing on our porch where the Milkman would leave glass bottles of milk, orange juice, and apple juice per the note left by mom.
Isn't this forum a form of social media? If so, it's the only social media site I use. I do have a rather dormant LinkedIn account that I got to figure out where all my friends went when the Motorola plant collapsed but haven't posted since it became just another brick in the Microsoft wall.No Fakebook, Twitbrain, Insta-damn social media crap for me.
I'm roughly the same age or a bit older at 69. I don't remember an ice harvest, but then I lived in Florida until age 62.Wiseold and I are just about old enough to remember the Ice Harvest!![]()
I pay my bills online, but do not use a credit card or auto pay. My small third tier Pennsylvania based bank has online bill pay. You log it and tell them how much to send, to whom, and when once the stack of paper bills from the post office gets deep enough. There have been no issues with that system in 6 years. I have had credit cards cloned three times in that period. Despite checking for a skimmer each time I use a gas pump or ATM, two of those hacks occurred shortly after going through a gas station near a major interstate highway (I-95 and I-75). I filled up in southern Georgia before crossing into Florida because it was considerably cheaper. Less than 100 miles later I get a text asking if I'm charging $300 worth of diesel fuel in Arizona on the same card. That answer should have been obvious. The Tubelab company card got cloned once. It is rarely used any more but was used for parts purchases at the usual Digikey, Mouser, Jameco and a few others before they accepted Paypal. I get a text asking if I am charging $120 of pizza? Again, way out of character, so I call the 800 number and suggest that they dispatch the police to the pizza joint. They did not want to get involved in catching crooks, just wanted to know if the transaction should be approved. I asked what would have happened if I did not respond to the text, and they said that they would have approved it, then let me sort it out. It sucks, but that seems to be the norm.Considering that one out of a hundred online credit card transactions results in a hack, it ends up being less work in the end. If I paid all my bill online, I would need a new credit card every three months instead of every two years. And go through the hassle of sorting it out with everyone who was supposed to get paid and didn’t.
Technically, yes, this site is a form of social media, but not a "widespread" and popular type like Fakebook, Twitbrain, etc.Isn't this forum a form of social media? If so, it's the only social media site I use.
And unlike those sites, this site is devoid of political propoganda, brainwashing, and indoctrination.
Well, yes.The leaks can be extraordinarily expensive...
But they were VERY well made, so worth it 😉

I guess if youre dealing with the bank directly, it’s one point of contact not many. And should reduce the frequency of “incidents”. I only use my useable-limit CC for trusted vendors that I’ve had no trouble with over the years. Digikey, Parts Express, so forth. New vendors get the other one that gets stopped sooner when it goes south. One out of a hundred on each still ends up going bad, but nothing is critical infrastructure. But I have missed Black Friday sales at PE waiting for new cards to come through so it has had some impact. With gas stations it’s one out of three, so as a rule I take cash to the register. If you don’t there’s a good chance someone runs up $5500 worth of groceries on it before it’s caught (that was the last time I bought gas in an emergency 4 years ago). Yes. They spent it a Kroger. What the #$&( we’re they buying?? Even I can’t eat that much steak.
My one card got hacked last year - first time it happened.That and don't keep too much in that account.
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Seems Wawa had a security breach, and I was one of millions who got hit.
Seems that on a given Saturday here in Philly, I was also in Orlando Florida, making transactions at the same time.
Obviously I could not be in two places at the same time.... Here in Philly buying cigs at a 711 store at noon, and in Orlando at 1:25PM at buying a gift card at I-Hop.
Two transactions totaling $54.72 - at a I-Hop and a Dollar General, both in Orlando.
I've never ever been to Orlando.
Of course, my bank took care of the situation and I got the money back, and a new card.
THE problem is that something will happen requiring a credit card, which is the only way that it can be paid, in between the time you turn the old card OFF and when you get a new one.
I have a separate account for use with online bill pay and transfer the needed amount into that account whenever paying bills. The Tubelab account never has much money, but the card is a credit, not debit card (less liability if cloned). Every time the bank raises the limit, I tell them to lower it back, as it keeps me from impulse buying stuff I don't really need. Unfortunately, that mid size bank just got eaten by a bigger bank so the rules may change. If so, I may change banks.That and don't keep too much in that account.
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Here I make payments on line with a system that sends a one time password to my cell phone.
It is valid for one minute, for that transaction.
Now cell phones with a camera QR function are being used, that seems safer than credit cards.
The money can be sent to your mobile number linked account, but mostly the app is opened, the payee's QR code (displayed near the counter) scanned, and the amount entered.
Then you confirm it, and the shop has a machine that announces the amount received. No cash or card is involved.
And here we have had people's cards (RF enabled), being hacked, the new contact less cards.
The money is sent to an electronic wallet, hard to recover.
Crooks will always find a way.
It is valid for one minute, for that transaction.
Now cell phones with a camera QR function are being used, that seems safer than credit cards.
The money can be sent to your mobile number linked account, but mostly the app is opened, the payee's QR code (displayed near the counter) scanned, and the amount entered.
Then you confirm it, and the shop has a machine that announces the amount received. No cash or card is involved.
And here we have had people's cards (RF enabled), being hacked, the new contact less cards.
The money is sent to an electronic wallet, hard to recover.
Crooks will always find a way.
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