Reading on here, I find the W8-1772 having great reviews for clean and crisp music listening sessions.
I like that. My listening pleasure is best when I get nice vocals and a almost surgical sound to the instruments accompanying the vocals.
Reviews seem to point to that TB driver.
And I just found out I can get a pair at a very reasonable price.
I was wondering how they would fare during a movie session. I'd buy 3 for L/C/R channels watching movies, and use L/R for music listening.
My requirements for enclosures would be larger than a small bookshelf, but shorter than a floor standing horn. Ideally, driver would have to be centered at 18" (46cm) from the bottom of the enclosure.
I wouldn't need extension past 80-100Hz as I will be getting 4x TB W8-740Q for handling the lower band.
Would it be reasonable, or a waste of a good speaker on movie tracks?
I like that. My listening pleasure is best when I get nice vocals and a almost surgical sound to the instruments accompanying the vocals.
Reviews seem to point to that TB driver.
And I just found out I can get a pair at a very reasonable price.
I was wondering how they would fare during a movie session. I'd buy 3 for L/C/R channels watching movies, and use L/R for music listening.
My requirements for enclosures would be larger than a small bookshelf, but shorter than a floor standing horn. Ideally, driver would have to be centered at 18" (46cm) from the bottom of the enclosure.
I wouldn't need extension past 80-100Hz as I will be getting 4x TB W8-740Q for handling the lower band.
Would it be reasonable, or a waste of a good speaker on movie tracks?
Those are nice drivers and like you say, pretty much only great reviews of them. If you are set on 8 in drivers and high efficiency you might also want to look at Dayton PS220-8. I think as main channel HT speakers you might be better off with something that has more power handling capability. I would almost go with a B&C 8 inch coaxial like the 8CX21. Put those in a basic vented cabinet tuned for say 75 Hz and you can rock. You will need a XO or biamp and DSP with them though.
Thanks x,
if you remember well, I am in Taiwan, and shipping here is a bit prohibitive. Some companies even refused to ship me drivers!
TB is a local company, so I have access to them directly.
if you remember well, I am in Taiwan, and shipping here is a bit prohibitive. Some companies even refused to ship me drivers!
TB is a local company, so I have access to them directly.
Full rangers beam at frequencies whose wavelengths are smaller than the diameter of the driver. An 8" will begin to beam above 1700 Hz. For music, a narrow sweetspot is acceptable. For HT, less so. The 1772 has a phase plug which helps, but doesn't completely eliminate the physics of the issue.
It is a nice driver ( I own a pair) but I wouldn't recommend it for HT unless you watch alone. OTOH, the center channel does a lot of the work in HT , so if you use these drivers , they won't be used a lot (which would be a shame)
IME, choose small full rangers, multiway constant directivity waveguide speakers or line arrays for home theater.
So, you made contact with them successfully, didn't you? I had tried but fail, but that's pretty long ago.
And, for many years, I've bought stuff from Parts Express without problem.
Thanks for the heads up. That's exactly what I was looking for.
I did build line arrays (16 drivers per column) and they sound great for HT. I was just looking for more things to do! 🙂 And a different sound experience.
Yes, my contact at TB is quite friendly. Seems like a nice guy.
And yes, PE will ship, and so will Madisound (which is usually a little cheaper for shipping costs) but roughly, a $100 driver will cost an extra $100 for shipping, plus duties when it comes. The price to pay for living here!
Finding local is usually the best. But not easy!
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Those drivers from PE are made in China. If you can find the source it may even cost less. Even Faital Pro which claims to be made in Italy are sourced from China. I was surprised to find that my friend in China obtained the 4FE32 ($37 from PE) for $25 direct from distributor. A little digging around may prove useful.
I was going to mention the beaming thing too so Zobsky hit that one.
I was going to mention the beaming thing too so Zobsky hit that one.
Yes, I was interested because it seems I can get the W8-1772 for about $130 plus shipping.
We are usually 2 watching movies, but sometimes will entertain friends. Later, I will have a little glass house with plants (when I mean later might be in a couple of years), and maybe will turn that into a listening room. I can always get the drivers now and storage then for a while because I don't know if I can get that deal later.
We are usually 2 watching movies, but sometimes will entertain friends. Later, I will have a little glass house with plants (when I mean later might be in a couple of years), and maybe will turn that into a listening room. I can always get the drivers now and storage then for a while because I don't know if I can get that deal later.
The 1772's have the widest dispersion of any 8" full-ranger that I have encountered. They will be fine out to 30* off center for HT. (BTW I use a phantom center. I find that a center channel causes more problems then it solves.) The PE PS-220 in not anywhere in the same league as the 1772's. I question whether a 8" is adequate as a sub for movies. I have a 10" ported sub which is OK only because I don't to action movies at theater volume. I would recommend stereo 12's if possible, but at least a single 12" for movies. The 1772 alone are fine for acoustic music. They probably need some help at the bottom for heavy rock.
Bob
Bob
If you need a bit more off-axis "zing" for home theater, you can add upward-firing tweeters (or perhaps dipole tweeters firing off-axis). That can add some "spaciousness." But for stereo, I don't think it's needed (but you could try a high crossover point and just the right level to add just a bit of ambient "splash").
Thanks for the comments Bob. I read your W8-1772 thread. One of the reason I asked if those drivers were available here.
Yes, the 8" would be a bit small by itself, but I was planning dual (stereo) subs with probably 2 drivers per enclosure. Size, and mostly width, of the enclosures is a factor.
I've gone with 2 duals of smaller size woofers (7" Eastech OEM from Monsoon sub-sat system) in a 5.1 system - works well enough for me; even on more effects laden fare (name your favorite guilty pleasure fanboy fantasy action comic book adventure) , I tend to keep things at well below 90db
OT, bit just for kicks, I opened up the FFT app in my iPad while on a recent international flight, AND on a fully loaded Bermuda bus ride - at just under 80dB (A weighted), the plane was only 5dB louder than the bus .
OT, bit just for kicks, I opened up the FFT app in my iPad while on a recent international flight, AND on a fully loaded Bermuda bus ride - at just under 80dB (A weighted), the plane was only 5dB louder than the bus .
OT, but thank you Chris....I just downloaded the same iphone FTT app and I guess I'm finally, albiet in baby steps, joining the "measurements" crowd. I look forward to playing with this when I get home tonight.
Mario
Mario
Just to be clear, there is no FFT app built-in the iPad- this one is part of Audio Tools by StudioSix Digital, and of course when using the internal mikes will be seriously compromised at both ends of the spectrum. The purpose made mike that also allows for charging of i-device while in use is approx $250 CDN I think, so that might need to wait a while - but it is fun to watch the spectral power content in real time. Some content as low as under 30Hz in the plane, and you'd be surprised about driving on the highway with the window down - just don't tell your audiologist,
Entry Level: iTestMic Information | Studio Six Digital
http://www.audiocontrol.com/t37/62295/746706/iOS-Direct/iOS-Test-and-Measurement-Microphone.html
They have a higher spec interface w Mic as well
dave
You might want to look at the calibrated Dayton iMM6 mic for apple devices. $16
Dayton Audio iMM-6 Calibrated Measurement Microphone for iPhone iPad Tablet and Android
I've used the 1772's in a MLTL for movies and they worked fine, not beamy very dynamic and good bass! Two thumbs up! This was a two channel set-up, no centre channel.
Larry
Larry
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