So I did try all those different potentiometers

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Re: Back to the roots?

carlosfm said:


Fantastic.

Really?
Nah.

While the speakers make difference, they are the last component in the system chain.
In a car, it's the tyres.
The source component influences everything, it's the car's engine.
What's the use to put the best tyres/wheels and have a bad engine?
Will the car drive faster?😀

You can buy quite decent speakers for not much money, but amplifiers and source components for the same money sound miserable.

Do all amps sound the same or make little difference?

Your way of thinking was very common in the 60's.:xeye:

yeah that was really smart
:smash:

now lets say car power = amp power
200w amp = 200hp car
we are not arguing which amp is louder (which car faster)
u can get a 200hp car and 500hp car its like 200/500w amp
sound quality = controll
that way the car with better tyres will win
stop making this stupid comparisements to confuse people
 
Re: Re: Back to the roots?

sss said:
yeah that was really smart
:smash:

stop making this stupid comparisements to confuse people

I think that my post is very easy to understand.
Although is not such a good analogy as I admit here and you missed:

carlosfm said:
Actualy that was just an example, although we can't by any means associate power with quality if we are talking about audio amps and even more so, source components.😀

Put good speakers along with a bad source and amplification and the system will be unbearable to listen.:dead:
 
sss said:
what do u mean by bad source? connecting good speakers to a boom box?

I mean most CD/DVD players around, unless you have big money to spend or you make a good job tweaking a half-decent CDP.
Or you make your own TDA1541A dac, knowing how to do it properly.
Or/and a good turntable/cartridge/pre.

sss said:
actually its harder to make a bad sounding amp then a normal one

You seam to like Piher pots.
Is that what you would use on a "normal" one?
"Normal" amps make me sleep.:dodgy:
 
Originally posted by sss: i dont know whats that
Originally posted by sss: actually its harder to make a bad sounding amp then a normal one
Originally posted by sss: while the only thing that can make a big difference in sound is your speakers

Seems like sss has a long way to go......

You should give Carlos more credit, he's well experienced.
I can fully backup his comments.

Dick.
 
Back on Track......

found an A-B (Allan Bradley) pot with the same part number signature as used for the PEC: RV4LAYSA103A Type J.
It's a 10k pot with a short shaft.
The base material where the carbon track is molded on is brown iso red like the PEC.

When opening up, the inside has a carbon track like the PEC and the wiper conductor is also a piece of carbon like the PEC, only smaller.

This looks very interesting and promising.
Should try it soon......
Maybe others already has experience with this brand ?

Dick.
 

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sss said:


this is not one of those forums where u get experience points for each post , if u aint got somthing smarter to say u can just .......


:dead:

Does your father still beat you up at friday nights?

You have a lot to learn young boy, not only about audio, but about how to interact with other people. With your mentality I can´t even understand what you do on a board like this. Come back when you have some experience.

"i dont know whats that , actually i'm using digital volume controll in my setup"

Yea, that is known to do wonders with the resolution..

/Peter
 
Pan said:
"i dont know whats that , actually i'm using digital volume controll in my setup"
Yea, that is known to do wonders with the resolution..

i dont know what piher pot means because i dont know what the word piher means , and yes i am using a digital volume controll -got no problem with that

as for the other stuff u write , u should see the pic i've posted on the previous page






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sss: why would you bother posting on a topic about pot comparisons if you use a digital attenuator, especially to flame the people who can hear quality. Just because you can't hear the difference between components doesn't mean that others can't. Even I, who've only been really working on my stereo for about a year, can hear the difference between parts. Maybe you should spend your time experimenting with components, rather than posting pointless, unconstructive comments.

Peter Daniel: Thanks for the info! I've seen those alpha pots at jaycar, it's great to hear some comparisons on them. For a large part, I prefer clarity and detail to my sound, and for their price they sound ideal.
Keep up the good work.

Andrew
 
has anyone tried placing the pot between two gain stages and not in the input? this one gives more clarity, detail and dynamics that when in the input.. btw has anyone tried the alps k27? these r nice, i think, and even nicer the black one..
 
Alps RK 27... are very good carbon pots with practicaly - 60 dB attenuation range. Although by manufacturer is guaranted tracking of both track 3.5 dB, real tracking is more better ( bellow 1 dB, most of them have 0.6 dB on all track ) - I had measured it on several tens of pieces. Reliability is high, 'cos they have good collector. They have much more positive vibration than Piher ones, but they are much more expensive 😀 .
 
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