Smoking. Do you smoke? Why and what do you smoke? Why not?

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Modern food will kill you first ... All my family smoked and my father died with lung disease but what has killed him was drinking. I could never get addicted although I tried many times. I like the scent of the smoke and love the taste of alcohol 🙂 I smoke a cigar now and then and occasionally hookah , like right now. Mostly for a little buzz and relaxation. Cant imagine being old for 30 years so I gotta die of something
 
I didn't know the exact difference...never interested in it...I thought opioids are extracts from opium ...I remember giving back to the emmergency unit the tramadol left from my mother though. They were in great need of it.
 
It used to irk me -- still does, kind-of -- that a bunch of stuff was 'illegal'. One time I dug up some fine-print in the local regulations and found that, inspite of popular belief and hearsay, the level of offense or insult really boiled down to whether a substance was 'medical' or 'recreational'.

It makes sense that, if you're not allowed to have fun, sooner or later you're going to get sick anyway. So, word of the day: prophylaxis!
 
Modern food will kill you first

This is true. Fast food and processed food products are poison in the US. Americans are obese and unhealthy, and I was one of them. The weight you gain from eating foods with high fructose corn syrup (which is in everything in the US) is the hardest to lose. I read you have to starve yourself and exercise vigorously to lose it all. That's pretty much what I've done for the past year and I still have a way to go.This is why liposuction is so popular in the US.

Fast food is really really bad. Oh man a meal at McDonald's has about three years worth of triglycerides for me in a single serving. I hardly eat meat and no potatoes. If I went to McDonald's I'd have to carry a defibrillator with me.

The good news is that you lose your appetite for all that nasty stuff after a few months of not eating it. The thought of McDonald's actually disgusts me now.
 
My brother started smoking at 14 or 15. By the time he was 40, he would chain smoke 5 or 6 cigarettes at every "smoke break." Nobody I knew smoked more that him.

He died at 56 years old of congestive heart failure and multiple cancers. Every biopsy came up positive for cancer. He died within three weeks of diagnosis. He smoked until the day he died. He even smoked on the day he died.
My parents were dedicated too though both got past 70 both were killed by high BP exacerbated by smoking. Both refused to give up. Both became 'militant' smokers.

Joke was the government drafted them for ww2 when neither smoked. They picked it up in the RAF and the government very kindly gave them free cigarettes...
 
I've never smoked cigarettes, but have enjoyed the occasional cigar in the past. A number of my friends smoke, and I have never thought much about it until recently...

Last July, I was diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer, which is a fact I've not shared with anyone outside of those who have a need to know. We do not know the cause, and it is doubtful that it's linked to smoking at all. But, it has definitely changed my perception of my friends' smoking habits, as I cannot understand why they willingly put themselves in danger of developing the same illness I now have. It is truly awful to live with this disease, and essentially feels like you're entire life has been stolen from you even though you are still alive (for now) as you cannot plan more than a couple months into the future due to the timing of medical appointments and treatments. In case anyone wonders, I'm 37, have lived a relatively fit life, have no truly bad habits, have not worked a job that would have exposed me to cancer causing agents, and have no other preexisting risk factors for this disease, so it is quite a shock to me to be in a situation where statistics suggest I won't make it to 40. I doubt my story will have any impact on anyone's decision to smoke or not, but I feel obligated to share in the hope that it might help someone gain some years of their life back if they quit before it's too late.
 
My view, it's better to legislate, licence and tax.
That is now. And it is OK
BUT why in the same time legslation strictly banned growing and small production of tobacco?
Even without pesticide treatment? Also with sort of tax or so. Just to let the "smokers" to choose.
I remember 50 years ago in the distant villages people had own small parcels of tobacco plant. They didnt use pesticides, dry the leaves and cut the leaves later manually. Maybe the 1-2 man fro m10 was smokers... And those who rolling own tobbaco didnt smoke excesively...
Offcourse it was strictly forbiden in these times to smoke own tobacco. It was allowed to have it and to sell it by the regulated price to the registered state company, who resell the tobacco to the cigarette brands...
Addiction illness is not only in the chemical substances, maybe it is more in the fact that someone who wants the cigarette have chance to have it in the same moment - just pick up from the package. All of the complicated process from plant to pack is "invisibile". That "need/success" relation is core of the addiction illness. And people is willing to pay for that...
Plus moment of "fire". If i quit smoking I will not give up from the lighter or matches certanly. I want to have lighter in my pocket all of the time... 🙂 Like some primitive natural instinct...
 
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needtubes, sorry to hear of your plight.

I was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer. It is probably not related to any particular lifestyle of mine. Just happens I guess.

I smoked cigarettes regularly from the time I was 17 until I was 24. The NAVY and I were smoking three packs a day when I quit. I also occasionally smoked a pipe or cigars. I didn't touch tobacco for nearly 40 years.

This past year I have occasionally smoked a cigar, usually when I am camping with my kayak group. If it takes 20 years to kill me, I probably have nothing to worry about.

Most people who smoke (and inhale) will not die of lung cancer. They will die of oxygen starvation like my father did. He quit smoking when he was down to 15% lung capacity. He was on oxygen for the last 12 years of his life. COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder) is the most common result of smoking. That is a miserable way to go.
 
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As far as processed foods go, I am a sucker for crunchy fatty processed (chips) stuff. Pork Rind is my downfall.

Fast food establishments can take a hike. I only stop at them when I am on a long trip. My weakness being chicken Fried Steak Biscuit.

I rarely purchase frozen process foods, preferring garden vegetables, frozen vegetables, fresh vegetables, etc.

I do process pork myself including back bacon, Andouille, Brats, pork butt, etc. So I am probably subjecting myself to too many nitrates.

That said, I eat more chicken than any thing else. Pork (loin) is probably second followed by fish, fatty pork and beef last.

I expect my food lifestyle is based on my mama being a country girl from GA, and my dad the son of a butcher in Pennsylvania Dutch country.
 
It used to irk me -- still does, kind-of -- that a bunch of stuff was 'illegal'. One time I dug up some fine-print in the local regulations and found that, inspite of popular belief and hearsay, the level of offense or insult really boiled down to whether a substance was 'medical' or 'recreational'.
What bothers me most about the illegality of some drugs is that it makes research using those drugs incredibly difficult. There's all sorts of red tape and procedures if you want to study the effects of, say, psilocybin or ketamine when used in clinical settings. It's good to see that some places (Oregon, for example) are opening up a bit so people who suffer from deep depression can get help and get some benefit from these drugs when administered properly and with a therapist.

Cannabis haș been legal in Canada for quite a few years now and I still have no desire to use it. My current choices of psychoactive substances remain alcohol and caffeine. I have no plans to change that, except for maybe dial down the alcohol a bit for better sleep, better overall health.

Tom
 
Solvents used in painting have been linked to lung cancer, and those in the printing industry.
The list of carcinogens is a long one, and some like Carbon Tetra Chloride were common electrical cleaners.

And look at the Humphrey Bogart era movies...it was considered trendy to smoke, even the ladies smoked.
Bogie died from smoking, many others did.
The irony is that most smokers think that it won't happen to them, but to others.

My uncle was a heavy smoker who died of a heart attack at age 65, refusing treatment, saying it was time for him to go...his wife died from lung cancer in 2018, result of smoke exposure.
The list of diseases known to be caused by smoking is a sobering and long one.

Here I get raw tobacco (excellent for moths etc. to protect clothes) for $5 a kilo, king size filter cigarettes are 20 cents and up each.
Do the math, how many cigarettes in a kilo of tobacco.
The taxes on tobacco are much more than what the government spends on cancer treatment, so it is profitable for the government to allow the cultivation of a dangerous substance.
That is the cold harsh reality.
 
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