Q factor RLC PSU

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There is a thread on diyaudo that measures regulation of a 15+15V 30VA R-core - I'd suggest you change the transformer winding resistance to about 5 ohm.

If you modify the load to a step load (eg. change from 280mA to 100mA, or vice-versa, from at 10 secs), and change the reporting to 9 sec delay and show 3 secs, then you will see no 'oscillations' - ie. the CLC filter is over-damped.
 
PSUD2, like vintage valve rectifier datasheets, uses an equation to calculate the effective secondary winding resistance. PSUD2 includes a calculator where the primary winding voltage and resistance, and the secondary winding voltage and resistance, can be inserted, and effective secondary resistance calculated (click on the "..." button on the right side of the transformer part value input pop-up window).

The diyaudio thread is linked here: Selectronic Rcore transformer
It shows about 7 ohm of series resistance for the 15+15 windings. On review, your 9+9 windings are in parallel, so I'd suggest using 5//5 = 2.5 ohm. The present value showing in your sim circuit is 0.135 ohm.
 
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How inaccurate are the results, when you measure primary resistance using a variable DC power supply (with current limiting!), a DC ammeter, a DC voltmeter, and Ohm's Law? Wrong by 5%? Wrong by 35%? Is it any better or any worse if you try the same setup to measure secondary resistance?

And for the benefit of the thread starter on "Selectronic Rcore transformer", linked above, here is one possible way to avoid the error

 
PSUD2, like vintage valve rectifier datasheets, uses an equation to calculate the effective secondary winding resistance. PSUD2 includes a calculator where the primary winding voltage and resistance, and the secondary winding voltage and resistance, can be inserted, and effective secondary resistance calculated (click on the "..." button on the right side of the transformer part value input pop-up window).

The diyaudio thread is linked here: Selectronic Rcore transformer
It shows about 7 ohm of series resistance for the 15+15 windings. On review, your 9+9 windings are in parallel, so I'd suggest using 5//5 = 2.5 ohm. The present value showing in your sim circuit is 0.135 ohm.

9+9 windings in series = 10 ohm?
 
How inaccurate are the results, when you measure primary resistance using a variable DC power supply (with current limiting!), a DC ammeter, a DC voltmeter, and Ohm's Law? Wrong by 5%? Wrong by 35%? Is it any better or any worse if you try the same setup to measure secondary resistance?

And for the benefit of the thread starter on "Selectronic Rcore transformer", linked above, here is one possible way to avoid the error


Thanks Mark, asked the manufacturer so I'm sure is well connected.
 
The Monte Carlo approach is good for testing all possibilities of component values within their tolerance ranges in a circuit to be sure the circuit works no matter the tolerance combination of the components happens to be in any example.
 
9+9 windings in series = 10 ohm?

The 15+15V 30VA windings in series appear to be about 7 ohm (post #24 indicates 7Vrms droop for 1Arms loading).

9+9V 30VA windings would be fewer turns, with a higher current rating, so likely to be lower resistance than 7 ohm. Assuming 5 ohm as a series resistance (or even less), then doing some mental arithmetic without the alcohol, the two 9V windings in parallel would be 2.5//2.5 = 1.25 ohm.