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Hi npetralias,
I searched a long time for a player with the optimal sound quality. I have tested a lot of players like: Stealthaudioplayer, XXHighend, Foobar, JriverMC, XMPlay. They all sound different, one is better then the other, but I think Pureplayer sounds the best. What I don't understand is why they sounds different? They all pretend to be "bit perfect"? Is it only jitter what makes the difference or are there some inaccuracies in the signal processing of the other players? Is the sample rate over the USB or SPDIF interface determined by the software of the PC or is it only hardware?
The best sound I get is with pureplayer combined with Fidelizer. Fidelizer optimizes some priorities of different software tasks and does something with a clock. It improves all players bit still there is a difference between the players.
Anyhow, thanks for this great player.
 
#222
npetralias said:
It handles only the "single file" cues (takes some time to split them first). Otherwise you may just add the files to the playlist. Thanks!
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Hi npetralias

I must be blond (which I'm not by the way 😀 ), but when I load a cue file for a single file album, they only thing that happens is that the single file flac gets converted into a wav-file, as a single file for the whole album still, and no navigation is possible between the tracks as defined in the cue file.

So still nothing has been done with this cue file.

As I said, I must be blond, but I just don't get it how Pure Player handles cue files.

Selecting the cue file and press "split cue" also doesn't do anything but presenting an explorer window with temp.cue which doesn't have any meaningfull content. It says decoding track 1 but nothing actually happens with splitting based on the cue file.


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aleg
 
#223
jabbr said:
Hi npetralias

I must be blond (which I'm not by the way 😀 ), but when I load a cue file for a single file album, they only thing that happens is that the single file flac gets converted into a wav-file, as a single file for the whole album still, and no navigation is possible between the tracks as defined in the cue file.

So still nothing has been done with this cue file.

As I said, I must be blond, but I just don't get it how Pure Player handles cue files.

Selecting the cue file and press "split cue" also doesn't do anything but presenting an explorer window with temp.cue which doesn't have any meaningfull content. It says decoding track 1 but nothing actually happens with splitting based on the cue file.


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aleg
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Strange...you can check the option "Show commands" to see more info.
Do you have the latest version (2.7)?
You can send me (just) the que file to npetralias@gmail.com to check...
 
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#224
netspeed said:
Hi npetralias,
I searched a long time for a player with the optimal sound quality. I have tested a lot of players like: Stealthaudioplayer, XXHighend, Foobar, JriverMC, XMPlay. They all sound different, one is better then the other, but I think Pureplayer sounds the best. What I don't understand is why they sounds different? They all pretend to be "bit perfect"? Is it only jitter what makes the difference or are there some inaccuracies in the signal processing of the other players? Is the sample rate over the USB or SPDIF interface determined by the software of the PC or is it only hardware?
The best sound I get is with pureplayer combined with Fidelizer. Fidelizer optimizes some priorities of different software tasks and does something with a clock. It improves all players bit still there is a difference between the players.
Anyhow, thanks for this great player.
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Very good question...
I really don't know 🙂
While experimenting with other players, i 've noticed that a wav file sounds better than the same flac, as well as full memory buffering and high runtime process priority. So i decided to make a simple player that follows these rules.
Fidelizer "helps" the user-oriented processes to run better by minimizing the OS influences. A major improvement is to disable virtual memory.

I believe that all these differences should not exist in a proper designed-implemented operating system...
 
#226
Plays multiple tracks at once

Hello. I agree, the sound quality with Pure Player is very good. I currently go back and forth between Stealth Audio Player and XMPlay that have very similar sound quality and it seems Pure Player is right in line with them. But I am having a problem where the player starts playing multiple tracks at once. When I load a directory and begin playing, the player will correctly play one track, then the next. But after two or three tracks, it begins playing all of the rest at once so there are actually three or four (or more) songs playing at once. I am currently using version 2.7. Any suggestions?

Peter
 
#228
network player as it is

I would like to ask some clarification regarding these ''network media players'' like for example SONY SMP-N100, NAD VISO THREE, etc.
As all of them have USB inputs and claim to play almost everything,
Could someone help me understand their ‘‘architecture’’?
I guess that right after USB input stands some PCM 27__ or similar,
then some kind of microcontroller which runs an application like Foobar, JRiver, Pure Player, etc.,
but what comes next?
Do they have classic DAC chips like AD,BB,CS,AKM,ESS or they use some kind of universal Madiatek chipsets?

Bonzite
 
#229
panord said:
Hello. I agree, the sound quality with Pure Player is very good. I currently go back and forth between Stealth Audio Player and XMPlay that have very similar sound quality and it seems Pure Player is right in line with them. But I am having a problem where the player starts playing multiple tracks at once. When I load a directory and begin playing, the player will correctly play one track, then the next. But after two or three tracks, it begins playing all of the rest at once so there are actually three or four (or more) songs playing at once. I am currently using version 2.7. Any suggestions?

Peter
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This sounds very similar to a problem I am getting with 2.7. Version 1.2 is fine. Sometimes it will play whole albums fine, other times it skips tracks completely and plays some tracks at the same time; sometimes it plays just one track but 2 copies of it slightly out-of-sync, giving an echo effect . Pretty weird ! I am using XP SP2 , loads of RAM and CPU running at about 5%. I really rate PurePlayer - prefer it to JRiver and Foobar - seems more natural and relaxed (until it starts 'skipping' that is !)
 
#230
For sound quality comparing to Foobar, i just can say sometime the same sometime just diferent. But just found out when in playlist there 2 files with 2 character (in filenames) different extension (my case mp3 and flac) these files played at the same times, when that happen i just press stop then press play again, files played normally( pure player ver 2.7).
 
#231
It seems I am not the only one getting this 'skipping' problem with v2.7. It is pretty consistent - I load a single file or folder/playlist and get the problem. With a single track it will start playing OK, then after a few seconds it starts to go out-of-synch and echoes. With a list of tracks, it skips 1 or 2 tracks completely before it starts playing and then does the same. Same on flac and mp3. Same on 24/96 as 16/44. Load files up locally on HDD or from NAS !! Same files perfectly OK on Foobar/JRiver. Tried re-installing software - no good. Occasionally it does play perfectly OK and sounds really good, so I want to persist with it. Any bright ideas ???
 
#233
Hi, I am big fan of JRiver, but PP sounds better to me - more natural and organic. Well done with your work on it. However, this 'simultaneous playback' problem ! I use XP SP2 - virtual memory disabled - loads spare RAM - CPU hardly being used - no other apps running - no internet connection - monitor powered off - I have tried files on local HDD / USB stick / NAS all the same result. Tried single file / folders/ playlists - can't think of anything else to try. Have more or less identical setup on a friends PC, and it's fine, so I'm suspecting it may be my machine. Anything else to try before I start swapping bits of hardware or reintalling OS ?! BTW - I'm going to WIN7 soon so I'll report back. Many thanks
 
#234
Hillbear, I get the same issue on a Win 7 setup - I haven't reported it here as my WIN 7 is a beta SP1 version & so I thought it might be a beta OS problem.

It seems to start multiple instances of flacplayer in the background & sometimes when I quit PP it still plays as Flacplayer is still playing in the background. Hope this helps in diagnosing the problem?
 
#236
Yes, I've been trying it again & have noted a couple of things (I mostly play Flac or WAV files). No visual effects enabled.

- it seems to only happen when Wasapi is ticked on
- it seems to be caused by 24/96 or 24/88 files
- if it starts to skip, then turning off Waspi seems to bring it back & it begins to work properly again.
 
#238
I just installed version 1.2 and it played fine, without playing multiple files at once. I have not tried the various other versions besides 2.7 (which did play multiple files at once). I am using Win7 on an Acer netbook, so I know I'm using the bare minimum of memory, but I am running with many of the Windows components turned off, no anti-virus, no firewall and file paging turned off. I really haven't had a problem with other players (except for J.River in WASAPI Exclusive). I don't see how it could be the machine, unless there is some service or component turned off that is needed by PurePlayer.
 
#239
My simultaneous playback problem but not always happen, just sometimes. And i notices it only happen to music files with almost same filenames with different extention ( example 01mysong.mp3 with 011mysamplesong.flac ), but not always happen, just sometimes. I'm using windowsxp sp3, with standard visual themes. I always forgot to tick show command, howto make it always show command (for debugging purpose)?
 
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