More I meant not a specific tecnology, but how to allow people to post OT without ruining a good thread , such as a pumpkin thread.
One possibility is to make it possible to label a post as OT , either by the poster or by multiple people clicking in a box near the post that it is OT. Then have a button that when cliclked , shows only the posts which are on topic and hides the OffTopic posts.
I assume that having a Pumpkin Off Topic thread in an OT forum doesn't work? A thread that various members can just post about Ot stuff?
One possibility is to make it possible to label a post as OT , either by the poster or by multiple people clicking in a box near the post that it is OT. Then have a button that when cliclked , shows only the posts which are on topic and hides the OffTopic posts.
I assume that having a Pumpkin Off Topic thread in an OT forum doesn't work? A thread that various members can just post about Ot stuff?
Variac said:More I meant not a specific tecnology, but how to allow people to post OT without ruining a good thread , such as a pumpkin thread.
One possibility is to make it possible to label a post as OT , either by the poster or by multiple people clicking in a box near the post that it is OT. Then have a button that when cliclked , shows only the posts which are on topic and hides the OffTopic posts.
I assume that having a Pumpkin Off Topic thread in an OT forum doesn't work? A thread that various members can just post about Ot stuff?
is it possible to make few things , functional in same time :
1. off topic button for part of text in post (same functionality as "bold" button" )
2. off topic button for entire post ; functional either for original poster , or/and Mod , or/and minimum of 3 multiple confirmations
3. general "hide/show OT on page " button
regarding

I feel cozy here in Paforum , same as in OT one 😉
whatever you choose to do , I think that OT Mob will obey ..... and post in serious


can we have one official OT thread , here in Paforum ..... please

maybe this one ,renamed ?
and , I would not call you Nemo ..... even with Steamboat looking amps ....
edit :
I really realize that some ppl are distracted with "unrelated junk" which is often part of some serious threads ; but , I think that we both share same awareness how important is relaxed human communication ....... so , I know that you have only good and practical intentions ;
I hope that we'll find some practical solutions regarding that ...
Variac said:
One possibility is to make it possible to label a post as OT , either by the poster or by multiple people clicking in a box near the post that it is OT. Then have a button that when cliclked , shows only the posts which are on topic and hides the OffTopic posts.
Uhhhh, that sounds 😎
Hmmm! In my ears it sounds like some kind of ignore-list system, I am not very comfortable with ...
But I appreciate the effort of variac
to solve this OT issue.
Manu
But I appreciate the effort of variac

Manu
Mrs.Magura said:Hey sweet Choky,
How is your back?
Ohhh, thats OT![]()
Mrs. Magura😉
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Mrs precious,
jewel of DIYAUDIO,
I dont want to boast of ... but the only one who has absolutely no knowledge here ... the only ever and only not doing else than OT : am I.
Just for the record
be well
Manu
In love

jewel of DIYAUDIO,
I dont want to boast of ... but the only one who has absolutely no knowledge here ... the only ever and only not doing else than OT : am I.
Just for the record
be well
Manu
In love

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ON THREAD MESSAGE MAYBE.
Manu - I dispute this. I fit into this category as well. Let me prove it.
ZM got my boards from way across the lands to my house. Very nice.
To prove my ignorance-
Cook Book discusses gain default of 10x with 10K/100K resistors. I assume this is 10db gain from my limited math skills.
Running an assumed balanced F4 mono's into lowthers, I dont think I need too much gain - right now using about 9db on DCX2496 POS. If I say want from 10x to 4.7 gain - is this DB? I asseme then C1 goes to 25pf?
Any advice on a good starting point for gain would be nice.😀 😀
Manu said:but the only one who has absolutely no knowledge here
Manu - I dispute this. I fit into this category as well. Let me prove it.

ZM got my boards from way across the lands to my house. Very nice.
To prove my ignorance-
Cook Book discusses gain default of 10x with 10K/100K resistors. I assume this is 10db gain from my limited math skills.
Running an assumed balanced F4 mono's into lowthers, I dont think I need too much gain - right now using about 9db on DCX2496 POS. If I say want from 10x to 4.7 gain - is this DB? I asseme then C1 goes to 25pf?
Any advice on a good starting point for gain would be nice.😀 😀
gain
in that case , as you can already see in Cook Book - you need ratio of
R6/R3 and R5/R1 to be same as you'r needed gain
so - to have gain of 4,7 (13,44db) , and to preserve input resistance of 10K/20K ........ you just need to change values of R6 and R5 to 47K
to maintain same RC multiple in feedback comp , just double values of both C1 and C2 ; everything in range of 8p2-10p will be OK .
use mica or styroflex ;
and - yup - gain is (in this case ) A=20(log(R6/R3)) [db]
and corner frequency for feedback comp. is
1/(2 x Pi x R6 x C2) ~ 320KHz
mithomas said:
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Cook Book discusses gain default of 10x with 10K/100K resistors. I assume this is 10db gain from my limited math skills.
Running an assumed balanced F4 mono's into lowthers, I dont think I need too much gain - right now using about 9db on DCX2496 POS. If I say want from 10x to 4.7 gain - is this DB? I asseme then C1 goes to 25pf?
Any advice on a good starting point for gain would be nice.😀 😀
in that case , as you can already see in Cook Book - you need ratio of
R6/R3 and R5/R1 to be same as you'r needed gain
so - to have gain of 4,7 (13,44db) , and to preserve input resistance of 10K/20K ........ you just need to change values of R6 and R5 to 47K
to maintain same RC multiple in feedback comp , just double values of both C1 and C2 ; everything in range of 8p2-10p will be OK .
use mica or styroflex ;
and - yup - gain is (in this case ) A=20(log(R6/R3)) [db]
and corner frequency for feedback comp. is
1/(2 x Pi x R6 x C2) ~ 320KHz
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Re: while am at it ... crippled F4
choky:
what are the pros and cons of the crippled F4, besides not having to match JFETs? 🙂 In other words, why should I be your Papa new guinea pig?
Zen Mod said:if you're driving ( and I suppose you do) your F4 with muscular preamp , you can even omit some things on input ;
do that to your own risk![]()
choky:
what are the pros and cons of the crippled F4, besides not having to match JFETs? 🙂 In other words, why should I be your Papa new guinea pig?
Re: Re: while am at it ... crippled F4
cons - none
pros - almost none , if you don't count satisfaction that you does something which Papa don't

seriously - one stage less ..... you can even omit output caps on Pumpie output ; but be sure that big caps on crippled F4 are empty before connecting signal vables
luvdunhill said:
choky:
what are the pros and cons of the crippled F4, besides not having to match JFETs? 🙂 In other words, why should I be your Papa new guinea pig?
cons - none
pros - almost none , if you don't count satisfaction that you does something which Papa don't

seriously - one stage less ..... you can even omit output caps on Pumpie output ; but be sure that big caps on crippled F4 are empty before connecting signal vables
hm, no problems with stuff creaping into the amplifier via cables? Less gain? Also, I'm not using the schematic you posted, but the later one with the 1N4148 diodes and what not... here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1323676&stamp=1192210689
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1323676&stamp=1192210689
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