Christer said:
Yep, understand. Christer. Thanks.
I guess it just surprises me that people would take the original question seriously (or even humorously). But then it's a big world wide web out there.
I only hear Rossini when they happen to play his music on the local classical station. I like modern orchestral music (particularly Pierre Boulez's work as a composer and conductor).
JF
johnferrier said:
Yes, the cat duet is hardly something people usually listens to.
It is often just perfomerd as a humourous event, and I think
that is how it was intended by Rossini himself. Since it involves
to sopranos meowing (spelling?) like cats, it was a kind of
obvious joke as a response to Evas catwoman joke.
johnferrier said:
Or maybe not, unless you happen to hear it with sopranos who
understand that it is kind of joke rather than serious duet.
I have a recording of it with Freni and Scotto, but as far as I
remember it is just boring since they treat it is just any opera
duet. On the other hand there was a (locally) famous performance
of it on swedish television many years ago with Elisabeth
Söderström and Kerstin Dellert, who are not only good singers
but also people with a great sense of humour. Of course, in
this case it also mattered that it was on TV since much of the
fun was in their acting. It would probably still be rather boring
to just hear it.
BTW, I am sure you know it already, but Rossini was quite a
fun guy himself, who loved practical jokes. There is a funny
story about a bad street musician playing outisde Meyerbeers
house driving poor Meyerbeer mad. He finally told his servant
to offer the guy two Francs (well, there was some other
currency than Francs at that time, but I can't remember what
it was). Then he changed his mind and told his servant to offer
the musician four francs if he instead went to play outside
Rossinis house. Howver, the music continued and after a while
the servant came back and reported that Rossini was already
paying the guy 8 Francs to play outside Meyerbeers house.
Sorry for this off-topic deviation folks, I just love anecdotes
like this one, so I couldn't resist telling it.
fun guy himself, who loved practical jokes. There is a funny
story about a bad street musician playing outisde Meyerbeers
house driving poor Meyerbeer mad. He finally told his servant
to offer the guy two Francs (well, there was some other
currency than Francs at that time, but I can't remember what
it was). Then he changed his mind and told his servant to offer
the musician four francs if he instead went to play outside
Rossinis house. Howver, the music continued and after a while
the servant came back and reported that Rossini was already
paying the guy 8 Francs to play outside Meyerbeers house.
Sorry for this off-topic deviation folks, I just love anecdotes
like this one, so I couldn't resist telling it.
Christer,
That's a good one. I hadn't heard that story.
And I wouldn't worry about ruining a thread titled "power cord break-in or burn-in is there such a thing?" It started off funny.
Have a fine day (it's way night here).
JF
That's a good one. I hadn't heard that story.
And I wouldn't worry about ruining a thread titled "power cord break-in or burn-in is there such a thing?" It started off funny.
Have a fine day (it's way night here).
JF
Peter Daniel said:
I heard she expands the sound stage by 1.2323254536456inches exact, prevents the "positively grey" sound you get from less than 100% pure copper wires, and gives that sweet meowing.
123% better than egyptian maple wood cases or water-dampened gainclones, 🙂.
Re: re Speaker Wire Secret
What does "less than anything" sound like. Yes, since we've all been joking about how a power cord changes sound (good one!) I'd thought I'd throw in the manganin wire. It's about 10 ohms per foot. I recommend at least a mile of it for best sound.
mrfeedback said:
What does "less than anything" sound like. Yes, since we've all been joking about how a power cord changes sound (good one!) I'd thought I'd throw in the manganin wire. It's about 10 ohms per foot. I recommend at least a mile of it for best sound.
Hi,
Ohmic resistance per foot is certainly not the all important factor in audio cable design.
Cheers,😉
Ohmic resistance per foot is certainly not the all important factor in audio cable design.
Cheers,😉
fdegrove said:
of course. What's more important than lining up those fast-spinning quarks so they can help electrons rushing down the wires in one way but not the other?
If a power cord has such a profound effect on sound and these magic cords cost so much, why wouldn't you just rip an outlet out of your wall and solder it directly to your transformer's primary?
Is it because ugly, bare copper wire sticking out of the wall would destroy the illusion of your sound system? After all, there isn't a wire in the world that can sound better than the mains wiring soldered directly to the transformer and it would certainly be cheaper.
Is it because ugly, bare copper wire sticking out of the wall would destroy the illusion of your sound system? After all, there isn't a wire in the world that can sound better than the mains wiring soldered directly to the transformer and it would certainly be cheaper.
It seems like you are confusing few things. First of all, this is not an issue of appearance. Second soldering transformer directly to the wires in a wall is possible (althoigh dangerous) but unless you mount the rest of your system hanging from that transformer, you still have to deal with wires and cables: secondary wires, interconnects and speaker cables. All of them will have similar or greater effect on the sound as the power cord.
So your suggestion solves nothing.
So your suggestion solves nothing.
Well...
You can allways call an electrician and tell him to change the wires hanging from the wall outlet to a longer ones so you can bring them directly to the transformer you want to power
No power cord, no plugs, just mains wiring from the mearest connection box or the fuse box to the trnsformer, in one piece, mains wiring till the end 😀
This is like the tip I mentioned about supressing coupling capacitors to avoid nonsense discussions with subjetivists
No power cord then no discussions are possible
The same principle applies for speaker cables, you can design the PCB of the amplifier in a way it fits the woofer, midrange or tweeter magnet and solder it directly to the usual solder lugs [of course, using an amplifier board for each driver and also soldering the wires of the output of the transformer direcly to each board]
So using no speaker cables at all, then nonsense discussions aren't posible
Who needs 'audio cables'? ... What a stupd thing
You can allways call an electrician and tell him to change the wires hanging from the wall outlet to a longer ones so you can bring them directly to the transformer you want to power
No power cord, no plugs, just mains wiring from the mearest connection box or the fuse box to the trnsformer, in one piece, mains wiring till the end 😀
This is like the tip I mentioned about supressing coupling capacitors to avoid nonsense discussions with subjetivists
No power cord then no discussions are possible
The same principle applies for speaker cables, you can design the PCB of the amplifier in a way it fits the woofer, midrange or tweeter magnet and solder it directly to the usual solder lugs [of course, using an amplifier board for each driver and also soldering the wires of the output of the transformer direcly to each board]
So using no speaker cables at all, then nonsense discussions aren't posible
Who needs 'audio cables'? ... What a stupd thing
I was trying to make a point, not sure if you got it or not. I use power cords and speaker cables, don't worry.
Eva said:
why would you do that? it deprives our golden ear friends of their last precious bragging rights about their supernature non-existent hearing capabilities. How can they prove their supeiority without a discussion on cable directionality?
🙂
Oh, I also use cables to ease the task of moving or swapping equipment
I was triying to point out that power cords and speaker cables are something optional, they pay no function at all in an audio system, are used just for convenience and it wouldn't be a problem to supress them to save time in nonsense discussions
PD: Humans have far better visual capabilities than most animals but lots of animals have far better auditive capabilities than humans, this explains high-end fashion very well...
I was triying to point out that power cords and speaker cables are something optional, they pay no function at all in an audio system, are used just for convenience and it wouldn't be a problem to supress them to save time in nonsense discussions
PD: Humans have far better visual capabilities than most animals but lots of animals have far better auditive capabilities than humans, this explains high-end fashion very well...
millwood said:
Oh, they would start talking about PCB trace directionality, soldering directionality [it sounds different if you held the soldering iron with your left hand], solder wire directionality, resistor directionality, loudspeaker voice coil directionality, transformer directionality, transistor break-in or burn-in, ouija and things alike ...
And of course, they will never get interested in acoustical treatment for listening rooms ...
Eva said:
are you suggesting what I think you are suggesting about our golden ear friends?
that's a good one, 🙂
Eva said:
and there are a lot of theories behind those "directionality", as much as there is behind neutrino's impact on sound quality.
Eva said:
that's proof that our golden ear friends are far more interested in talking about it than doing it.
Eva said:
Brava, Eva!
My problem with the "I changed the >insert tweak here< and my system sounded >insert winetasting adjectives here< than it did >insert when here<" assertions is that even listening to the same piece of music at different times on the same unchanged system is a varying experience. Sometimes I'm noticing for the first time a little thing the drummer's doing. Sometimes I notice I hear more of the vocalist's breathing than I remembered before. There are many, many nuances to the recording, and one's attentiveness to them is bound to vary, though the actual sound might not.
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