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here is the .txt file I saved.
hardware monitor for AMD shows the high temperature (73°C) that I reported a few days ago.
here is the .txt file I saved.
hardware monitor for AMD shows the high temperature (73°C) that I reported a few days ago.
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Roguekiller needs you off all applications including your browser when it is running. Shut all applications please and get on back after Roguekiller is done scanning. 😀
Without wishing to muddy the waters any further, I really think Andrew needs to step back from this and ask whether all this is ever going to achieve the desired result.
You seem to be installing so much stuff to try and fix this when based on the evidence so far I suspect its become a case of an operating system that has become even more broken through trying to hard to fix it. Mention of things like ReimageRepair (have you actually installed and run that ?) set alarm bells ringing. You don't want or need any of that junk which more often than not does more harm than good.
Doing a clean and methodical reinstall would be my advice at this point.
You seem to be installing so much stuff to try and fix this when based on the evidence so far I suspect its become a case of an operating system that has become even more broken through trying to hard to fix it. Mention of things like ReimageRepair (have you actually installed and run that ?) set alarm bells ringing. You don't want or need any of that junk which more often than not does more harm than good.
Doing a clean and methodical reinstall would be my advice at this point.
I went through the txt file. Your hardware is fine for W7. I have a pc running W7-64bit with similar hardware and it's not slow. What is of concern is the temperature.
I assume the 73C is that of the cpu. That's very high. I would look into that first. Chances are the heatsink is not seated properly. The retaining clips of the 775 are a pain when installing. Another cause is the thermal paste has dried up. Under idle conditions, you should be getting around 50-55C with an intel stock heatsink.
I have not downloaded reimage.
I have downloaded and run CPU Z
I have downloaded and run Malware bytes. No malware found.
I have downloaded and run Rogue Killer. registry 3 red PUPs found and deleted. 34 orange PUPs found, no action taken.
All the other report screens are blank
Since the 3 apps above all do next to nothing for my PC, should I uninstall before I forget they are there?
It seems that AVG and the WIN7 software has kept the PC pretty clean.
I have downloaded and run CPU Z
I have downloaded and run Malware bytes. No malware found.
I have downloaded and run Rogue Killer. registry 3 red PUPs found and deleted. 34 orange PUPs found, no action taken.
All the other report screens are blank
Since the 3 apps above all do next to nothing for my PC, should I uninstall before I forget they are there?
It seems that AVG and the WIN7 software has kept the PC pretty clean.
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No, the CPU is stated as ~39°C. It's the AMD, my graphics card, that runs hot, too hot to hold my finger on it. Stupid design of heatsink does not help: the fins point down with backplate horizontal in my tower case, no fan on the card and no fan shoving air in that direction.
I thought and still believe it is background apps running that I have not installed but come with other apps. Like adobe and raptor and windows all tell me that updates are available.
As far as I am aware all automatic updates are turned off. Hornresp and LTspice tell me, but only after I turn on the app.
I don't need internet apps to tell me that. I will do an occasional update when I think it's necessary.
As far as I am aware all automatic updates are turned off. Hornresp and LTspice tell me, but only after I turn on the app.
I don't need internet apps to tell me that. I will do an occasional update when I think it's necessary.
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Good to hear the high temp is the graphics card and not the cpu. We can leave that alone for the time being. The next likely cause for your pc is too many programs running in the background.
Type "misconfig" (without quotes) in RUN and it'll bring you to STARTUP menu. You'll be able to see all the programs that automatically run during STARTUP. DISABLE those like Adobe, etc. DO NOT DISABLE any by microsoft.
If your pc is properly optimized, it should startup within 60 secs.
Type "misconfig" (without quotes) in RUN and it'll bring you to STARTUP menu. You'll be able to see all the programs that automatically run during STARTUP. DISABLE those like Adobe, etc. DO NOT DISABLE any by microsoft.
If your pc is properly optimized, it should startup within 60 secs.
A low end Gforce (GT210) or AMD graphics card should (does) run @ 70C stock.
Especially the ones with only passive cooling. HTPC duty (below) runs
what you have a bit harder.
Squeeze a couple fins together on the card's heatsink and attach a low profile 40mm 12v fan. Either run it from the motherboard or 12V direct.
My GT210 will run both my TV and monitor with either video or 3d while I'm
typing this - zero delay/lag. Edit - ... about 50C - all day.
PS - even with all that A/V below going .... just 1.1g memory on a W7-64.
- Careful choice of programs and installation choices.
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If some roguekiller results were in "red" then they were malware not PUP's. I'm assuming that you looked at each of the results in "orange" and took an informed decision not to remove them because they were needed programs and not PUP's.
You don't need to uninstall the 2 programs since you never installed them in the first place. If you don't need them any more - just delete them. I'd just like to mention that on my PC, I've had these malware infections numerous times with high CPU/Mem usage and each time one of these programs has eradicated the infection. They are part of my arsenal (among numerous others) of tools used to fight this stuff.
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Why do you need either ?? Over 8 years of no virii - no AV at all.
Before that , got one in 2000 - before I got wise to things.
PS - If you click on those huge green "download" buttons , you just
might need an AV. 😀
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You may not need either but that's not to say that Andrew or anyone else may not need it. One size does not fit all. 😀Why do you need either ?? Over 8 years of no virii - no AV at all.
Before that , got one in 2000 - before I got wise to things.
PS - If you click on those huge green "download" buttons , you just
might need an AV. 😀
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Then it comes down to a simple choice.
#1 = a slow , less responsive PC saddled with many 3rd party progs to
"save you from yourself".
#2 = a speedy , tidy OS with carefully chosen 3rd party progs that never
change (or constantly update). Here , you must learn something to avoid
needing to be "saved".
I feel the added cost , reduced productivity (and constant updating) of #1
balances out the additional learning curve required by #2.
In the end #2 - you are both smarter and less frustrated by your PC.
PS- Windows 10 might be "salvation" for the masses. You will pay monthly and
Micro$oft will fix your broken OS (periodically).
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#1 = a slow , less responsive PC saddled with many 3rd party progs to
"save you from yourself".
#2 = a speedy , tidy OS with carefully chosen 3rd party progs that never
change (or constantly update). Here , you must learn something to avoid
needing to be "saved".
I feel the added cost , reduced productivity (and constant updating) of #1
balances out the additional learning curve required by #2.
In the end #2 - you are both smarter and less frustrated by your PC.
PS- Windows 10 might be "salvation" for the masses. You will pay monthly and
Micro$oft will fix your broken OS (periodically).
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Actually, I have #2 and an AV and anti-malware software both installed. But that's because I know exactly what to do if something goes wrong and how to recover from it.
Why do you need either ?? Over 8 years of no virii - no AV at all.
Before that , got one in 2000 - before I got wise to things.
PS - If you click on those huge green "download" buttons , you just
might need an AV. 😀
I have never used anti-virus myself. And my computer has always been the fastest and cleanest at work. The problem is when I need to copy other people files into my computer, then I have to borrow anti-virus in other people's computer to make sure it is clean.
Having no anti-virus installed means you need to have sufficient knowledge about how the virus and its distribution works (like how to turn the autorun off). And may be a little paranoia.
Sometimes I do gambling when I don't know when a file/link/executable is clean or not, but at the same time I always check manually whether my computer has got infected or not. And in a bad luck, the virus is just too strong that removing manually takes some effort. Many viruses come with internet games. It makes it easy that I'm not a game maniac.
NETSTAT is only a tool to see if something is trying to open a connection with the outside world. Usually the Task Manager is sufficient to know what is going on. In your case you have several processes that may not suppose to run in your situation.
Windows Defender (MsMpEng.exe) is somekind of anti-Malware. It is not popular so removing/stoping this software is not a big problem. You can replace e.g. with Malwarebyte or something.
You can test by stopping (end task / end process) unnecessary software/service from running (MsMpEng.exe, TrustedInstaller.exe, RdrCEF.exe, AcroRd32.exe, even RapportMgmService.exe) to see what is happening. Even svchost.exe can be tested, but I think the first two is related with the issue.
To temporarily stop the software, just right click on the process (in Task Manager) and click "end process"/"end task". Some software may refuse to stop of course (but then you know that they are the troublemakers).
When you stop the problematic software, you should found the slow computer problem gone, or the problem is somewhere else (e.g. hardware). Then you need to find out why and by which other software the problematic software was triggered.
When you know that you don't need a software/service/process, you can stop them and then disable the service associated with that process. If I'm not mistaken, in W7, you can right click the process (in Task Manager) and you have the "Go To Service".
To see the SERVICES window I usually type "SERVICES.MSC" in Run window. In service properties the startup type can be changed from "Manual" or "Automatic" to "Disabled".
Sometimes you will find that the software you don't need is activated during startup (like most virus), so you need to remove them from startup software list (I have never needed any software to run by startup).
Typing "MSCONFIG" in Run window will give you the access to stop a software from being activated during startup. If the software cannot be deactivated from there (or recreated during startup), then you have to do it manually with REGEDIT.EXE or using third-party software.
Stubborn software (a.k.a viruses) may need to be removed in safe mode.
Lots for me to review.
Keith has used remote access to adjust some settings and given advice on a couple of "to do" items.
It may be the dual AVG and MS protection that is my major intermittent speed problem.
I can experiment with that.
Thanks for all the help.
Keith has used remote access to adjust some settings and given advice on a couple of "to do" items.
It may be the dual AVG and MS protection that is my major intermittent speed problem.
I can experiment with that.
Thanks for all the help.
Type:
msconfig
and by sending in the search box of the start menu.
Go to the Start.
Remove all the checkmarks less those related to antivirus.
By ok.
Do not reboot.
Go to Services section.
Put the check mark to hide all Microsoft services (Attention, Microsoft services are hidden and untouched)
Disable all others.
By ok.
Do not reboot.
Go to C: \ windows \ prefetch
Deletes all files (including the folder ReadyBoot that will be recreated)
unless the file LAYOUT.INI.
Go to C: \ windows \ temp
Delete all files erasable.
Control Panel> Internet Options, click Delete to clean up
Temporary and timeline.
By ok.
Empty Trash.
Restart.
To restart download Wise Registry Cleaner Free Portable Version:
(Do not use the version that you may already be installed in the system but always download the latest)
http://www.wisecleaner.com/soft/WRCFree.zip
Save the file in the Downloads folder, right click on the file, extract everything, confirming the destination folder, open the unzipped folder, right click on the file WiseRegistryCleaner.exe and choose "run as administrator", you consent to the notice of the UAC.
Leave the default options.
Starts scanning.
Repairs, for the moment, all entries green.
Scanning and repair should be performed only once.
Wise Registry Cleaner should be used only as a tool to correct any problems and never for alleged "bias" and / or "optimizations".
Restart.
Hello
msconfig
and by sending in the search box of the start menu.
Go to the Start.
Remove all the checkmarks less those related to antivirus.
By ok.
Do not reboot.
Go to Services section.
Put the check mark to hide all Microsoft services (Attention, Microsoft services are hidden and untouched)
Disable all others.
By ok.
Do not reboot.
Go to C: \ windows \ prefetch
Deletes all files (including the folder ReadyBoot that will be recreated)
unless the file LAYOUT.INI.
Go to C: \ windows \ temp
Delete all files erasable.
Control Panel> Internet Options, click Delete to clean up
Temporary and timeline.
By ok.
Empty Trash.
Restart.
To restart download Wise Registry Cleaner Free Portable Version:
(Do not use the version that you may already be installed in the system but always download the latest)
http://www.wisecleaner.com/soft/WRCFree.zip
Save the file in the Downloads folder, right click on the file, extract everything, confirming the destination folder, open the unzipped folder, right click on the file WiseRegistryCleaner.exe and choose "run as administrator", you consent to the notice of the UAC.
Leave the default options.
Starts scanning.
Repairs, for the moment, all entries green.
Scanning and repair should be performed only once.
Wise Registry Cleaner should be used only as a tool to correct any problems and never for alleged "bias" and / or "optimizations".
Restart.
Hello
It still amazes me that for as long as they had to find their own solution, they only stabilised their network stacks after borrowing from BSD. They took the 'X', they took the 'box', and they took the code and still put their name on it.
One shudders to think, most people aren't that gullible but they are fish in a barrel.
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