I wouldn't buy anything in haste. Why not try your XP disc and then try the upgrade.
If you do buy a W7 disc with valid license then installing should be (it is) straightforward. I've not looked at prices but a CPC flier that came today has W7 Home Premium @ £62.95 + vat, same for W8.1
Try what you have first, you've nothing to lose.
Thats me done for tonight 🙂
If you do buy a W7 disc with valid license then installing should be (it is) straightforward. I've not looked at prices but a CPC flier that came today has W7 Home Premium @ £62.95 + vat, same for W8.1
Try what you have first, you've nothing to lose.
Thats me done for tonight 🙂
"My take" ?? A bloody "Racket".
All this money - all these versions ... they are all server 2006/2008 OS's
with bits and pieces added/removed. from Vista to W8.1 - all the same
B$.
Clean route -
Best is to get home premium or pro , has the Aero.
Ultimate -you get bitlocker and bunch of stupid "fluff". X64 is rock solid.
Install "platform update" - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36805
this gets all the major 2011-2013 bugs fixed.
You have to have the update service running to install this.
You will then get this .... (below) 😀
"my update needs an update" - this is that kb302xxxx B$. But the update
service CAN install the "update update" ... so it means that this update
is NOT fixing anything , just turning update into something else.
Shut the stupid thing off , disable the service. You are at 4/13/2013 ,
the high point of the windows 7 (or windows in general) experience.
If you have updated past 4/13/2013 ....
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3g7hr0/removing_telemetry_from_windows_7_and_8x/
A very complete list -
https://voat.co/v/technology/comments/459263
Even the KB971033 that takes out the "pirates" ! 😀
Mooly , your registry hacks will only buy you time ... as will installing
a legit/updated W7. W8/8.1 will still be full of telemetry , regardless.
You will ALL wake up one morning to W10.
Only following the Reddit post will allow you any control.
PS - eventually W8/10 will have hacked "underground versions" that
are pre-activated and telemetry free.
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I second what Mooly says. Install XP with your XP license key first.
The "upgrade" license is valid only if the upgrade is done on a PC which has a previous version of Windows XP or Vista.
AFAIK, you can do the "upgrade" in one of 2 ways:
1. Install XP and from within XP, run the upgrade. This will create a windows.old folder which has XP backed up.
2. Install XP and then boot using the upgrade disk. This will allow you to format the disk, create partitions etc and the windows.old folder will not be created. Now, I'm not sure if this type of installation (after formatting) will be treated the same way as an installation which isn't an "upgrade" (the way you did yesterday). It SHOULD treat it as an upgrade but you never know. In the interest of saving time, I suggest that you follow #1 to install/upgrade to Win 7. Now, this means that all partitions that you need to create be created during the XP installation.
The "upgrade" license is valid only if the upgrade is done on a PC which has a previous version of Windows XP or Vista.
AFAIK, you can do the "upgrade" in one of 2 ways:
1. Install XP and from within XP, run the upgrade. This will create a windows.old folder which has XP backed up.
2. Install XP and then boot using the upgrade disk. This will allow you to format the disk, create partitions etc and the windows.old folder will not be created. Now, I'm not sure if this type of installation (after formatting) will be treated the same way as an installation which isn't an "upgrade" (the way you did yesterday). It SHOULD treat it as an upgrade but you never know. In the interest of saving time, I suggest that you follow #1 to install/upgrade to Win 7. Now, this means that all partitions that you need to create be created during the XP installation.
OK. I will do an XP install.
I think I follow post363.
When during the XP install do I set up the 20GB partition?
Do I have to interrupt the process ?
I think I follow post363.
When during the XP install do I set up the 20GB partition?
Do I have to interrupt the process ?
Sounds like you could be well on the way...
Use the XP install disc to bring your HDD back to all unallocated space (or as it seems to call it, unpartitioned). Make the new 20gb partition and install XP, activate but don't bother to install updates. Then upgrade. The upgrade will use the 20gb partition XP is on.
Use the XP install disc to bring your HDD back to all unallocated space (or as it seems to call it, unpartitioned). Make the new 20gb partition and install XP, activate but don't bother to install updates. Then upgrade. The upgrade will use the 20gb partition XP is on.
Tried the MS disk cleaner again.
It still offered to remove 4MB of thumbnails.
But there is another option down below.
Tried that and it added 900MB of files to be removed.
Done.
The HDD is now 14.5GB instead of 15.5GB used.
It still offered to remove 4MB of thumbnails.
But there is another option down below.
Tried that and it added 900MB of files to be removed.
Done.
The HDD is now 14.5GB instead of 15.5GB used.
Looks like I have a plan.
Maybe not today. Too many other things taking up my time.
Probably tomorrow.
Maybe not today. Too many other things taking up my time.
Probably tomorrow.
Sounds reasonable enough to me.
(I've never installed installed a copy of XP but I would suggest you turn OFF updates before going online to validate it. That keeps the XP install as small and clean as possible. And do the same for the upgrade, turn off updates immediately it boots to the desktop. That gives you time to sort things out and take stock)
(I've never installed installed a copy of XP but I would suggest you turn OFF updates before going online to validate it. That keeps the XP install as small and clean as possible. And do the same for the upgrade, turn off updates immediately it boots to the desktop. That gives you time to sort things out and take stock)
My rebuilt is still not connected to the internet.
I intend do the same when installing XP. That way no updates and no virus.
I will need to download Microsoft Security Essentials to replace my previous anti-virus app.
Can I do that via my present PC and copy to a USB stick to load into the rebuild?
I intend do the same when installing XP. That way no updates and no virus.
I will need to download Microsoft Security Essentials to replace my previous anti-virus app.
Can I do that via my present PC and copy to a USB stick to load into the rebuild?
I would do this,
1/ Updates off initially.
2/ See if it will validate. If you are sat behind a router then you won't have any virus worries at this stage. Get the install validated because if that fails there is no point continuing.
Assuming it OK...
3/ With updates still OFF, set your basic W7 options up and create your second partition for backups.
4/ Install AOMEI as we did before.
5/ Image the disk (make a backup).
That gives you your first basic recovery image to keep. A validated W7 install.
At this point you can download security essentials but do it from within Windows. The little 'action centre' white flag at the bottom right will be red. Click it and expand the problems it shows. Security will be one and it will ask you to install something. Competition laws means there will be a choice offered, AVG, Norton etec etc but MSE will be in the list as well. Select that and let it install.
I'm assuming security essentials will download with Windows Update OFF. If it didn't, then set update to 'notify only' and manually click 'check for updates' to start it off.
1/ Updates off initially.
2/ See if it will validate. If you are sat behind a router then you won't have any virus worries at this stage. Get the install validated because if that fails there is no point continuing.
Assuming it OK...
3/ With updates still OFF, set your basic W7 options up and create your second partition for backups.
4/ Install AOMEI as we did before.
5/ Image the disk (make a backup).
That gives you your first basic recovery image to keep. A validated W7 install.
At this point you can download security essentials but do it from within Windows. The little 'action centre' white flag at the bottom right will be red. Click it and expand the problems it shows. Security will be one and it will ask you to install something. Competition laws means there will be a choice offered, AVG, Norton etec etc but MSE will be in the list as well. Select that and let it install.
I'm assuming security essentials will download with Windows Update OFF. If it didn't, then set update to 'notify only' and manually click 'check for updates' to start it off.
Yes, you can download MSE from here - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=231277 - copy it to a USB drive and then install it to the newly built Win 7 PC. Immediately after it installs, open MSE from the system tray and update virus definitions.
Ahhh ... no updates , no AV ... still "clean".
(below)
M$ software wanted to update telemetry (opted out). Ran
well in /scan /DL'ing it's definitions.
PS- you would not need this till after you interface with the "online virus" (WWW) !!
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MSE i s good ..
The bad - uses 229MB of silicon.
The good -
- works well.
-does not "bog" down anything.
- uninstalls quickly.
Now , your system is clean ... Virii are rare , most malware's are
to create a botnet or to steal financial data.
The "bad guys" don't want to fully crash or render your PC inoperable.
Then you are useless to them .... they want for you to not even
notice their software's presence.
Most of what I have seen on my "zombie" PC (a PC that has malware) ,
is not even detected by MSE.
Some malware uses windows update , "spoofs" the update server ... and
installs digitally signed packages. The bad guys are WAY ahead of symantec,
AVG, and MSE.
As I said , the education is far more important than supposed protection
that provides a false sense of security. (be aware of "social engineering")
Edit - "chatty" software's (including windows) are the biggest weakness in
internet security. I am just opening port 80 now(as I post) - that's it . Nothing
else is allowed to do anything. After I post , I don't even exist.
https://www.grc.com/default.htm way more important !!!
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The bad - uses 229MB of silicon.
The good -
- works well.
-does not "bog" down anything.
- uninstalls quickly.
Now , your system is clean ... Virii are rare , most malware's are
to create a botnet or to steal financial data.
The "bad guys" don't want to fully crash or render your PC inoperable.
Then you are useless to them .... they want for you to not even
notice their software's presence.
Most of what I have seen on my "zombie" PC (a PC that has malware) ,
is not even detected by MSE.
Some malware uses windows update , "spoofs" the update server ... and
installs digitally signed packages. The bad guys are WAY ahead of symantec,
AVG, and MSE.
As I said , the education is far more important than supposed protection
that provides a false sense of security. (be aware of "social engineering")
Edit - "chatty" software's (including windows) are the biggest weakness in
internet security. I am just opening port 80 now(as I post) - that's it . Nothing
else is allowed to do anything. After I post , I don't even exist.
https://www.grc.com/default.htm way more important !!!
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Started the PC and used F2 to enter the uefi.
Changed the priority1 boot to optiarc.
Started up and pressed "any key" to start from CD
The XP disc started to load up.
I see a new problem
do I remove the HDD and put it into my working PC and Format to remove all the previous Win7 installations?
or just run CHKDSK /F ?
How do I check it is properly configured and terminated?
Changed the priority1 boot to optiarc.
Started up and pressed "any key" to start from CD
The XP disc started to load up.
I see a new problem
so I shut down and powered on again.
do I remove the HDD and put it into my working PC and Format to remove all the previous Win7 installations?
or just run CHKDSK /F ?
How do I check it is properly configured and terminated?
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Does it give you a message after the STOP: 0X0000007B (0xF78D663C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)<IS THERE A MESSAGE DISPLAYED HERE?>
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