Being in Australia , the toshiba jets are quite expansive with postage etc..
Has anyone got some alternate to the toshiba`s that i could try.
Thanks
Has anyone got some alternate to the toshiba`s that i could try.
Thanks
Not an easy task.
Go through this thread:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/replacement-for-toshiba-2sk170-2sj74.317563/
and see if you can find something suitable locally.
Also here:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/njfets-for-source-follower-applications.329131/
and here:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/b1-jfet-alternatives-list.142769/
Go through this thread:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/replacement-for-toshiba-2sk170-2sj74.317563/
and see if you can find something suitable locally.
Also here:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/njfets-for-source-follower-applications.329131/
and here:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/b1-jfet-alternatives-list.142769/
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This is for headphone.
But easy enough to change the output stage to suit.
Patrick
This is for headphone.
But easy enough to change the output stage to suit.
Patrick
And many more options here :
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/f5-with-bjt-at-input.210538/
Patrick
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/f5-with-bjt-at-input.210538/
Patrick
Glennkaspar
Regarding your question, try Digikey to obtain the Linear Systems equivalents (LSK170 and LSJ74). Each is around $14 - 15 each, you will need 2 of each. Digikey has free shipping for orders over $60 to Australia, so when you include the GST you are there. I don't think you're going to get away with spending less on the jfets, from personal experience.
Regarding your question, try Digikey to obtain the Linear Systems equivalents (LSK170 and LSJ74). Each is around $14 - 15 each, you will need 2 of each. Digikey has free shipping for orders over $60 to Australia, so when you include the GST you are there. I don't think you're going to get away with spending less on the jfets, from personal experience.
I added Store SMPS filters between each SMPS and its RC filter. There was no significant change in the low level noise in the 55kHz region of the spectrum.
The second image below is the noise with the SMPS filters. The third image is without.
I explored some other mechanisms for the noise coupling but could not find anything that changed the things.
Bottom line: The noise level of very low and mostly outside the audio spectrum.
The second image below is the noise with the SMPS filters. The third image is without.
I explored some other mechanisms for the noise coupling but could not find anything that changed the things.
Bottom line: The noise level of very low and mostly outside the audio spectrum.
Thank you, very interesting! Can you simulate/calculate a notch rec filter to suppress that 55k region?
The 4kHz spike is still there. My earlier screenshots did not accurately resolve the height of the peaks. I do some more spectral measurements, both with and without the SMPS filters.
The first image is WITHOUT the filters, showing both the 60Hz noise and the 4kHz noise, which is at about -125.5dB.
The second image is WITH the SMPS filters, showing the 4kHz peak at about -134dB, which is a reduction of around 8dB.
There was no improvement in the 40kHz-60kHz range.
The first image is WITHOUT the filters, showing both the 60Hz noise and the 4kHz noise, which is at about -125.5dB.
The second image is WITH the SMPS filters, showing the 4kHz peak at about -134dB, which is a reduction of around 8dB.
There was no improvement in the 40kHz-60kHz range.
I am unable to find an explanation for that 4kHz spike. It is 100% repeatable and only occurs in the channel with the SMPS. I have looked for instrumentation problems with no success.I seem to see a 4 kHz spike? I am accustomed to spikes above 20k with switchers.
I need to do some spectral measurements of the supplies in isolation to directly see the noise on their outputs.
Here are the filters for the SMPS supplies that I have tested and reported about.
The top filters reduce the 4kHZ spike by about 8dB vs. the bottom RC-only filters.
The top filters reduce the 4kHZ spike by about 8dB vs. the bottom RC-only filters.
What happens if the output device source resistors are bypassed with BFCs? Higher loop gain... Bad things...? 😱
The loop gain would increase with higher frequencies. The impedance of capacitor C at frequency f is:
Z = 1/(2*pi*f*C)
Examples:
C= 0.1Farad f=20Hz Z=0.08 Ohms
C= 5643uF f=60Hz Z=0.47 Ohms
I could go into more details of this affect on loop-gain, but the bottom line is that there are probably better ways to increase loop-gain.
Z = 1/(2*pi*f*C)
Examples:
C= 0.1Farad f=20Hz Z=0.08 Ohms
C= 5643uF f=60Hz Z=0.47 Ohms
I could go into more details of this affect on loop-gain, but the bottom line is that there are probably better ways to increase loop-gain.
I didn't mean as a goal to increase loop gain, but whether that consequence is a bad thing, and whether it might provide another PS filter. That's a rather big cap, yes, to extend down that far. But would it need to have a corner that low if you just want to filter 4kHz?
That 4kHz spike is still a mystery, but is at such a low level that it should not have an audible affect.
With only the RC filters, the spike is 103dB below the 1 Watt into 8 Ohms, resulting in an amplitude of about 20uV at the amplifier output.
With the DIYA Store filters and the RC filters, the spike is 110dB below the 1 Watt into 8 Ohms, resulting in an amplitude of about 9uV at the amplifier output.
Perhaps my spectrum analyzer has too low a noise floor, allowing measurements that are of no importance.
With only the RC filters, the spike is 103dB below the 1 Watt into 8 Ohms, resulting in an amplitude of about 20uV at the amplifier output.
With the DIYA Store filters and the RC filters, the spike is 110dB below the 1 Watt into 8 Ohms, resulting in an amplitude of about 9uV at the amplifier output.
Perhaps my spectrum analyzer has too low a noise floor, allowing measurements that are of no importance.
👍 No worries from me on that.
Though for grins I did a quick sim and it seems 1000uF from output sources to ground shouldn't wreck anything. OL gain would go up in middle frequencies, so perhaps some extra PS filtration in that range. Larger C would extend OL down further but any capacitance here shouldn't change overall FR.
Though for grins I did a quick sim and it seems 1000uF from output sources to ground shouldn't wreck anything. OL gain would go up in middle frequencies, so perhaps some extra PS filtration in that range. Larger C would extend OL down further but any capacitance here shouldn't change overall FR.
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