output buffer for a hybrid amplifier

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I don't have that diode model. I tried other types of Silicon and
Schottky in that position with negligible effect. Series resistance
seems to be dominant in that branch.

However, I do see what you mean about current limiting. Hardly
any difference in current seen between 2 ohm load and 1ohm....
Your amp tops out a little over 4 amps and refuses to self destruct.

Mine (s19.asc) tries to deliver 14 Amps into same 1ohm abuse.

Both tested with same 23V input...
 
kenpeter said:

However, I do see what you mean about current limiting. Hardly
any difference in current seen between 2 ohm load and 1ohm....
Your amp tops out a little over 4 amps and refuses to self destruct.

Exactly! 😉

I also made such amps long time ago (in 1980'th) for cars, owners liked to roll-over speakers shorting wires, and Japanese amps did not survive. Mine never destructed themselves. 🙂
Edit: I called it Aikido, but returning back from software to audio design I discovered that the name had been taken by Tubecad sticking forever to SRPP.
 
gaetan8888 said:



Hello

How much current it need to drive it ?


About 0.5 milliamperes minimum, but I recommend about 100 times more idle current in your tube stage for better linearity. Don't forget about a coupling capacitor and couple of diodes to 25V rails to protect it's input transistors from overvoltages. You may use one triode strapped EL84 tube with 6 LEDs (2 parallel strings of 3 in series) in cathode, loaded on SVCS, like this one:
http://wavebourn.com/forum/download.php?id=125&f=7

You may remove D5 Zener in the SVCS (short it), decrease R7 to 24K, and power it from 300V instead of 500V. Tune R3 according to your taste.
 
Wavebourn said:
About 0.5 milliamperes minimum, but I recommend about 100 times more idle current in your tube stage for better linearity.

My experience is to use more current, and lower driving impeadance is better.
Another thing: I have no good experience with CFP output, and tube drivers. I don't know what is the problem with it, but it never sounds good to me. (I found something in Self's measurements, which reported wrong input impedance response for CFP output)

Sajti
 
kenpeter said:



At DC maybe... Those gates won't charge/discharge themselves.
Without a change in gate charge (repeated every cycle) there is
no change in channel current. Regardless how much "capacitance"
a source follower topology might claim to hide, the energy wasted
over time goes up with frequency...

At audio frequencies. The IRF510/9510 have low Cdg (some 10pF), it even less than the commonly used driver transistors (MJE1503x). The Ugs change is very low, due the driver function

Sajti
 
sajti said:


My experience is to use more current, and lower driving impeadance is better.
Another thing: I have no good experience with CFP output, and tube drivers. I don't know what is the problem with it, but it never sounds good to me. (I found something in Self's measurements, which reported wrong input impedance response for CFP output)


We were speaking about my bulletproof Aikido output follower (not SRPP, it is a complementary 2-stage opamp with unity gain). Contrary to conventional output follower it's input resistance goes down when it shifts from class A to B.
 
Hi,

I made some test with my amplifier.

Sajti
 

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Hi,
i need an opinion here....
i was playing with a output buffer concept for a hybrid power amplifier...thanks in advance....
best regards
daniel

I designed my own hybrid amplifier and simply bolted on an SRPP front end to a standard MOSFET class AB amp. Because the valve had a gain of 11 I had to reduce the gain of the MOSFET amp by that factor otherwise it was straightforward.
 
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After some test, and listening I finally put togethet the prototype of the output buffer for my hybrid amplifier.
I will use two of this buffer, for each channel, bridged.

Sajti
 

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