awpagan said:
Russ
any updates on your project?
allan
Getting prototype PCBs made next week after the holiday. Just had to finish off some other projects first. This one is up next. 🙂
There will definitely be a USB to I2S converter too. Will probably get that made at the same time. I may contact a few of you to see if you are interested in beta testing the DAC and/or USB PCBs.
The DAC board on its own should be able to go directly into a 10-100K load with no problem (most preamps) , but it would not be filtered at all. I have a third line stage module based on the THS4131 which I will use to filter the output a bit. Balanced input and output.
I will post circuit details here soon. Along with pics of the layout for those who are interested.
One question to anyone who knows, can anyone shoot me a link to a good small input trafo to use for SPDIF that is easy to obtain in the U.S.? I am thinking of including one, but I need to find a good simple example of an SPDIF input circuit using a trafo and identify the trafo I could use.
Cheers!
Russ
Russ White said:One question to anyone who knows, can anyone shoot me a link to a good small input trafo to use for SPDIF that is easy to obtain in the U.S.? I am thinking of including one, but I need to find a good simple example of an SPDIF input circuit using a trafo and identify the trafo I could use.
What, this kind of thing?
pinkmouse said:
Now thats a solution I could live with. 🙂
Reading it over. Thanks!
Russ White said:
Getting prototype PCBs made next week after the holiday. Just had to finish off some other projects first. This one is up next. 🙂
There will definitely be a USB to I2S converter too. Will probably get that made at the same time. I may contact a few of you to see if you are interested in beta testing the DAC and/or USB PCBs.
The DAC board on its own should be able to go directly into a 10-100K load with no problem (most preamps) , but it would not be filtered at all. I have a third line stage module based on the THS4131 which I will use to filter the output a bit. Balanced input and output.
I will post circuit details here soon. Along with pics of the layout for those who are interested.
One question to anyone who knows, can anyone shoot me a link to a good small input trafo to use for SPDIF that is easy to obtain in the U.S.? I am thinking of including one, but I need to find a good simple example of an SPDIF input circuit using a trafo and identify the trafo I could use.
Cheers!
Russ
I have ordered the eval pcb with some dac's to try.
the reason i like the voltage out is so i can try something like this
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54009&perpage=10&highlight=&pagenumber=193
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allan
ps also would like to try the software version
I looked at the site Craig pointed to:
http://www.scientificonversion.com
And found the SC979-03 which seems to be a good fit. I will call them Tuesday to see what the price is and if I can even get them. But they seem small enough. 🙂
Thanks Craig.
Cheers!
Russ
http://www.scientificonversion.com
And found the SC979-03 which seems to be a good fit. I will call them Tuesday to see what the price is and if I can even get them. But they seem small enough. 🙂
Thanks Craig.
Cheers!
Russ
Sowter seem to do one as well, the 8285. They use a strange frames system on their site, so you can't link to the specs directly, but if you go to sowter.co.uk it's under pro audio.
Digi-Key also carries some transformers from Newava. Have a couple but have not tested them. 470-1006-ND, 407-1007-ND.
Have to admit that Canare piece looks intriguing if we find a good supplier.
Have to admit that Canare piece looks intriguing if we find a good supplier.
That canare transformer is not the right transformer, not even close. It is an impedance matching transformer.
A 1:1 75 ohm pulse transformer, the Newava parts digikey carries will do fine, also the SC parts. If you use the search you can find quite a few threads on them.
Found this on Epanorama:
The transformer must have good coupling factor, so the transformer core must be a toroidal core made of high permiability material. The prototype described in the magazine uses Philips Type TN13/7.5/5-3E25 core which has permiability rating (yt) of 4500. THe primary and secondary windongs consisted of 6 turns of 0.5 mm diameter enamelled copper wire laid on opposite sides of toroid. The transformer used in this prototype was described to have a bandwidth raged from 50 kHz to 17 MHz, which is more than adequate for an S/PDIF link
trafo choice
Here is what I am leaning toward right now:
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Newava/Web Data/S22160.pdf
Should work fine. Any thoughts?
Here is what I am leaning toward right now:
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Newava/Web Data/S22160.pdf
Should work fine. Any thoughts?
Scratch that.... it looks like the S22083 is a better part, it has lower leakage inductance which seems to be the critical spec.
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Newava/Web Data/S22083.pdf
🙂
Now to finish the PCB.
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Newava/Web Data/S22083.pdf
🙂
Now to finish the PCB.
You've got me interested to see your progress as well, Russ. I'd be keen on trying out one of the Wolfson chips on a real DAC (the only experience I've had with them so far is on computer sound cards).
Keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work!
My hope is to order a few prototype PCBs next week. 🙂 It won't be long now.
Would anyone be upset if I omitted the TORX input?
Thanks for the ijnterest.
Cheers!
Russ
Would anyone be upset if I omitted the TORX input?
Thanks for the ijnterest.
Cheers!
Russ
Hey Russ.
I like the idea of this DAC.
I really would like to see what the result is.
Keep us informed.
I like the idea of this DAC.
I really would like to see what the result is.
Keep us informed.
Russ White said:My hope is to order a few prototype PCBs next week. 🙂 It won't be long now.
Would anyone be upset if I omitted the TORX input?
Thanks for the ijnterest.
Cheers!
Russ
An optical connection would be great, since my PCMCIA sound card has only an optical output, others many be in the same situation. Also the optical connection eliminates any chances of computer PSU noise getting into the DAC.
-David
OK guys, about to get some made
Here is the current circuit.
Some notes:
1) I am not sure if I need R9 or not, and if I do if I have the correct value.
2) I have set the WM8740 to reset with the CS8416, which aoocurs on power up after the digital voltage reach 3.3V.
3) Both the digital side of the WM8740 and the CS8516 are running on a singal 3.3V digital supply. The analog side of the WM8740 should be 5V.
4) I will add a legend for al the jumpers and what they do.
Cheers!
Russ
Here is the current circuit.
Some notes:
1) I am not sure if I need R9 or not, and if I do if I have the correct value.
2) I have set the WM8740 to reset with the CS8416, which aoocurs on power up after the digital voltage reach 3.3V.
3) Both the digital side of the WM8740 and the CS8516 are running on a singal 3.3V digital supply. The analog side of the WM8740 should be 5V.
4) I will add a legend for al the jumpers and what they do.
Cheers!
Russ
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