Thomo said:
Yup, that they are. Any ideas on the best to use? I have just made these and want to get cracking.
Anyone, what's the best way to stop the boards oxidising?
Cheers, Lee.
Nice one, buy some pcb lacqure. I use anti corrona, mainly because I repair insulation testers that can output 5000V lol
Brent
rowemeister said:
Nice one, buy some pcb lacqure. I use anti corrona, mainly because I repair insulation testers that can output 5000V lol
Brent
5000v! eek

A lad on my electrical course belted himself with 500v from and insulation tester. Funniest thing I've seen for ages. Noob, lol.
Can someone explain the difference between the original filter and the bessel slope version. Does the bessel have less emphasis on the treble or something like that?
Lee.
I think you get a flatter response curve and yes iirc its the treble end thats improved
Brent
Brent
I believe the filter characteristics were changed by KI to Bessel in his copper-plated special version. That's one reason it sounds better that the standard KI.
Andy
Andy
Thomo said:
I replaced my inductors with Toko 10RB shielded ones from here and it cured the hum problem I was having completely.
To those saying that the original filter had a treble lift, yes it did, but smaller than the rolloff you get with the Bessell, if that matters to you.
Glenn2 said:
I replaced my inductors with Toko 10RB shielded ones from here and it cured the hum problem I was having completely.
To those saying that the original filter had a treble lift, yes it did, but smaller than the rolloff you get with the Bessell, if that matters to you.
Thanks Glenn. I ordered some of those inductors earlier.
I think I'll stay with the original filter then, I don't like the idea of roll-off, that's why I stayed away from NOS with my tda1541 player.
Lee
The bessel filter has a much more constant group-delay and the treble rolloff is less than 1db at 20kHz compared to the original.
I prefer the bessel filter.
I prefer the bessel filter.
avr300 said:The bessel filter has a much more constant group-delay and the treble rolloff is less than 1db at 20kHz compared to the original.
I prefer the bessel filter.
Seeing as I'm still a bit of a noob, any chance of explaining what difference this will make to the sound please?
Lee.
Thomo said:
Seeing as I'm still a bit of a noob, any chance of explaining what difference this will make to the sound please?
Lee.
It should sound a tad smoother with the Bessell.
With Ray's filter circuit and his prescribed values you are exactly 1dB down by 20kHz. Would not bother most people but it is just about audible nonetheless.
Try it and if you feel you need more top-end sparkle you can always change the values and try it the other way later.
The Os Con Story
Hi Ray
Once more following your work, I replaced C124 Next to VREF out by a 220uF 10V OsCon (gives "space" and transient attack in the bass).
After that I replaced C135 / 138 (Q105) Sled + LD by 150uF 16V oscon (more microdetail) (ultra low bass info) (wider space).
Next went C153 / 154 (QM01) Disc Motor Driver by 150uF 16V oscon (more low bass control).
But the real magic happened when I finally replaced R127 / 128 (Q105) Sled + LD by 220uH/2,5R (more bass control and trebble definition).
I would really apreciate your comments on this upgrade.
Now I really understand the possibilities of this player and want a good output stage.
I need a good 12V PSU for the output stage.... Can you suggest a minimum quality TX ?
Should I use 80VA or less ?
Thank you again for your help.
Best Regards
Ricardo
Hi Ray
Once more following your work, I replaced C124 Next to VREF out by a 220uF 10V OsCon (gives "space" and transient attack in the bass).
After that I replaced C135 / 138 (Q105) Sled + LD by 150uF 16V oscon (more microdetail) (ultra low bass info) (wider space).
Next went C153 / 154 (QM01) Disc Motor Driver by 150uF 16V oscon (more low bass control).
But the real magic happened when I finally replaced R127 / 128 (Q105) Sled + LD by 220uH/2,5R (more bass control and trebble definition).
I would really apreciate your comments on this upgrade.
Now I really understand the possibilities of this player and want a good output stage.
I need a good 12V PSU for the output stage.... Can you suggest a minimum quality TX ?
Should I use 80VA or less ?
Thank you again for your help.
Best Regards
Ricardo
I've noticed some differences between the discrete's on Brent's and Ray's pdf's. Brent uses 1 2sc2240 per channel and 2 x 1n4148's and Ray uses 2 x bc550 and a 220n cap (c8). Which is the best layout? If Ray's is best, can I use 2sc2240's instead of bc550? As i have them already.
Cheers,
Lee.
Cheers,
Lee.
As an impartial observer ...........
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Both are implementations of the CCS and give similar results.
You can use the 2SC2240's instead of the BC550's.
Andy
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Both are implementations of the CCS and give similar results.
You can use the 2SC2240's instead of the BC550's.
Andy
Re: As an impartial observer ...........
Cheers Andy, I've stuck em in. Just waiting for the resistors now so no more noob questions for a while:¬)
Lee.
poynton said:.
Both are implementations of the CCS and give similar results.
You can use the 2SC2240's instead of the BC550's.
Andy
Cheers Andy, I've stuck em in. Just waiting for the resistors now so no more noob questions for a while:¬)
Lee.
RCruz said:Hi
I am now looking at the external DAC PSU..... Can anyone tell me what is the little black part that seems to be glued to the TX..?
Can anyone help me identify the little rectangular section part glued to the TX ?.... Please see pic above.
Help

Ricard0
RCruz said:
Can anyone help me identify the little rectangular section part glued to the TX ?.... Please see pic above.
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Ricard0
Ricardo, it seems to be a piece of plastic used for mounting purposes.
André
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