Magnetic paper ribbon

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@Edmund

You can see the 4 conductors in post 37.

This version has the magnets like the midrange woofer sektion in magnepan. See below.

Acoustic Elegance Dipole18 woofer for Open Baffle Apps


Thanks I see it now it wasn't clear to me that I looked at the conductors in post 37.
Now what about the difference it layout between post 33 and 56?
In the #33 configuration the folds are very much in the center of the magnets
but I am not sure how the fields of the conductors behave here.
In #56 the folds and conductors are more separated from the magnets.
Not quite sure how the forces acts here either :-(
What and why is the #56 better then the #32 situation?

Edmund
 
Thanks I see it now it wasn't clear to me that I looked at the conductors in post 37.
Now what about the difference it layout between post 33 and 56?
In the #33 configuration the folds are very much in the center of the magnets
but I am not sure how the fields of the conductors behave here.
In #56 the folds and conductors are more separated from the magnets.
Not quite sure how the forces acts here either :-(
What and why is the #56 better then the #32 situation?

Edmund

The differens is which way the magnets are turned. I don´t think the differens is a big deal. Any way its´s easier to make with the magnets like magnepan planar
 
Are you saying that I could use.....these type ribbon in the magnepan true ribbon frame...
I have a pr that need new ribbons....I have been to come up with diy type a replament that would have better output......were can I get this paper......what about folding foil...any input would be helpful......these stock ribbon have week output....
thanks
 

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Are you saying that I could use.....these type ribbon in the magnepan true ribbon frame...
I have a pr that need new ribbons....I have been to come up with diy type a replament that would have better output......were can I get this paper......what about folding foil...any input would be helpful......these stock ribbon have week output....
thanks

dont think you get any better output on the high frequency's to be honest, the ribon is 4 micron i believe in the magnepans. and there is no other added weight to them except the conductor it self.
 
tyu, im curious , what do you mean by " these stock ribbons have weak output". What do u mean by weak?

If I owned a pr of the Magneplaners and that tweeter was out I would not hesitate to experament with thicker foils. Even as thick as 12 micron. Sure the super thin stuff has its benafits BUT the particular characture of the Maggi mid unit may be a good match for the sonics of the thicker foils.

Yes yes u will change the resistance and thus the x over point. I would simply compensate with some resistance added. In fact many may find that playing with this resistance and thus the level may be to their liking.

If you must have thinn I see some 4 and 6 micron stuff on ebay from time to time. Not 2.5 but not sure we arent past point of dimineshed returns once u get below 4 micron.
 
Well itis Not pure graphene, so resistance Will be way to high versus weight of the pet film 🙁

Graphene is mentioned Often as the the magic ingrediënt , the problem is this . Alrhough iTS the best conductors and one of the strongest material around. in the Esl scene the material needs to be strong at a certain thickness but have high resistance at the same time. Something the material that is strong on both points cant achieve in my opinion .

In magneplanar the quantity used is usually so low the resistance is still to high to be of any use yet. Of course it is way lighter , but you should be using several traces in paralel and stil end up with to high resistance 🙁

Graphene is so expensive in pure form especially if you want to have custom traces🙂
 
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Ok. A friend of mine tried carbon-fibre fabric as ribbon. I did play, indeed, but the fabric in question had some bonding that melted.
AB Jensen: Would Micropore tape or thin silk (spielerseil) be useful for the W- planar ribbon?

Micropore tape is too thick. Use toilet paper, I know it works. Glue it with contact glue diluted with toluen.Glue it from the back. The glue can run through the paper.
 
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