John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier

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PMA said:
I do have a preamp with OPA627, I have verified the OPA827 and OPA211. As far as you do not have a direct comparison, you may say nothing.

I may say whatever I please 😀 and btw. verifying has nothing to do with building.

I understand though, you are trying to build a business, that explains a lot. But otherwise, as long as the only thing to show is your own personal opinion, your word is as good as anybody's else. Do a controlled test and report back, that might show something interesting.
 
Be careful, PMA, Syn08 claims to be a friend of Willy!🙄
Personally, I am glad for your progress, and please remember the word OP AMP can have a broad meaning. I design OP AMPs with complementary differential input most of the time. Look at the example of the Parasound JC-1 for example, or even the Parasound JC-2.
 
Yes, I agree, you may design hybrid opamp completely according to audio design rules.

I meant generallly used simplification as VFB, usually dominant-pole compensated device, with low roll-off corner and with very strong NFB. BTW, I have recently made interesting simulations of PIM, that is inherent to this structure, only a question of measure.
 
PMA said:
Yes, I agree, you may design hybrid opamp completely according to audio design rules.

I meant generallly used simplification as VFB, usually dominant-pole compensated device, with low roll-off corner and with very strong NFB. BTW, I have recently made interesting simulations of PIM, that is inherent to this structure, only a question of measure.

You can compensate opamp circuits in a gazillion of ways as well, nobody is forcing you to use "dominant pole compensated device, with low roll-off corner". I just posted a couple of days ago an example of a composite amp that doesn't use dominant poles etc... It's just an almost textbook example of what kind of amazing things can be done using the modern opamps. Hardcore "Three legs good, eight legs bad" (to quote Scott) denotes a) lack of understanding and/or knowledge on modern opamps features, or b) trying to fool yourself and everybody else about audio as voodoo magic rather than just engineering.

One problem with b) is that this is 2008 - and there are no longer audio voodoo sorcerer job openings. You were born 40 years to late and in the wrong place for that.

Otherwise, good luck and no hard feelings please 😀
 
PMA, that is why I often make my best designs with transconductance amp topology. Raises the open loop bandwidth, all else being equal. CTC, Levinson JC-2 line stage, Vendetta 2'd stage and Dennesen JC-80, all design winners, use transconductance topology.
 
Hi John,

Not low-noise input stage, but MOS-FET outputs.

At the time you did the vandetta phonostage, Krell was using Supertex mosfets in the PAM-3, PAM-5 and KSA-50, KSA-100 and the KMA-100.

I believe you used Hitachi in the Vandetta. How do you rate the VN0206, VP0206 series?

mkc
 
Hi John,

Thanks for the reply.

I bought some back then. I have 10-15 pieces left of each.

Also have some 2SK147, 2SJ72. But, not enough to build an Vandetta and certainly not enough to select them for noise.

But, there is always Erno Borbely🙂

Best regards,
Mogens
 
Transistors are old enough technology, now..that it should be possible (like buying old record plant cutters and stamping gear, etc) to have someone make their own 'hobby' line of transistors. I'm amazed that it has not been done. The big guys can't get into it, otherwise they'd end up charging more than the hobby guy, as the line (manufacturing position) could be used for a more large scale salable product. Like Black Gate capacitors being pushed out of production for that exact reason.
 
I'm using Supertex parts in a current design in production today. No real problems getting them. I have been a fan for a very long time. No real problems getting them. The part numbers have changed and the variety is smaller but they still have what I have needed.
 
Interesting review and insight into the man himself 😉

http://www.stereophile.com/phonopreamps/640/

Vendetta Research SCP-2 phono preamplifier
By J. Gordon Holt • June, 1988

Few people in the audio business would deny that John Curl is an audio design genius—arguably the greatest one of our generation. He designed and built the electronics for Mobile Fidelity's SuperMaster and David Wilson's (of Wilson Audio) UltraMaster tape recorders, two of the three best analog recorders in the world. (The other is Keith Johnson's home-brew unit.) He designed the JC-1 head amp and JC-2 preamplifier sold under the Mark Levinson name some years ago. He designed head amps for SOTA, Michaelson & Austin (TVA), and has done consulting work for more high-end companies than you can shake a stick at.

Yet, for all his acknowledged design brilliance, fame has not brought John Curl fortune—like so many geniuses, he has earned a reputation for being hard to deal with. It's not that he drives a hard business bargain; quite the opposite, in fact. He has been cheated, defrauded, and ripped off by some of the best-known names in audio. His "problem," as seen by his clients, is that he an idealist of the first order, with strongly held ideas of how things should be done: ie, as well as possible and hang the cost. In the pursuit of audio perfection, Curl little comprehends the meaning of "compromise." His designs tend to be truly no-holds-barred, using the best components money can buy to produce the best sound and highest reliability the state of the art allows......
 
PMA, the problem is KEEPING the power amp in class A. You just run out of heatsink, especially with very powerful designs. I work very hard to make the transition between class A and class B as smooth as possible. I 'baby' my best output stages with low impedance drive, matched betas, optimized R(E), and very linear complementary devices running with significant Iq in each device. I usually still i can measure 'some' 7th harmonic, but it will be -115dB or below.
 
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