Richard, I don't think any filter topology is going to yield the results you want with a single conventional op-amp. Maybe a composite amplifier as others have mentioned.
This level of performance is hard enough to get with passives...
This level of performance is hard enough to get with passives...
Demian, looks more like this is what I have to do.... Compared to usb stick... it is livable size. And, if I increase the C's, I can keep or reduce the L's. Polystyrene values don't go high in value, so large L would be needed. But I have a tonne of REL caps of all types.... so cost isn't an issue for large values. Next.... making/buying the L's.
I wonder if I could buy a CLT-1 and just change the C's to get what I want??
THx-Richard
I wonder if I could buy a CLT-1 and just change the C's to get what I want??
THx-Richard
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Hey out there! I am looking for people in easy commute to Berkeley to work with to make audio projects. I have lots of extra parts and pretty good test equipment. Anybody want to make analog audio projects with me?
If I was in the same state, that would be fun. Where I live I can't even get an audiophile to come to my place to hear all my creations.
John-
You beat me to it. I would make a similar offer but you were first. And we are in the same area.
You beat me to it. I would make a similar offer but you were first. And we are in the same area.
You are asking for essentially what is impossible
Standard operating procedure. Understanding how these things are working is for wussies. Noise, noise gain, same thing, who cares, anyway?
Demian, looks more like this is what I have to do.... Compared to usb stick... it is livable size. And, if I increase the C's, I can keep or reduce the L's. Polystyrene values don't go high in value, so large L would be needed. But I have a tonne of REL caps of all types.... so cost isn't an issue for large values. Next.... making/buying the L's.
I wonder if I could buy a CLT-1 and just change the C's to get what I want??
THx-Richard
If you can even find a CLT-1. You need 2 to measure thru performance. One is only good for passive nonlinearity. The inductors are on Ferrite cores. Retuning it to 1 KHz probably won't work, too many issues. Its time to design inductors that will be distortion free at lower frequencies and usable currents. It must be possible. I would start with a Mumetal core and run it at very low flux. Or manye you have access to super conductors? If the frequency is above 1 KHz Litz wire would be important and will special winding techniques to minimize capacitance etc. . .
> And, if I increase the C's, I can keep or reduce the L's.
It is not that simple. I do not know them, but there are
rules for optimum L/C value selection beyond simply
making the basic formula to work.
I suggest :
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/isbn/0672216949/
It is not that simple. I do not know them, but there are
rules for optimum L/C value selection beyond simply
making the basic formula to work.
I suggest :
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/isbn/0672216949/
Standard operating procedure. Understanding how these things are working is for wussies. Noise, noise gain, same thing, who cares, anyway?
So no one knows how to do it except for passive means. OK. Thanks. No, I don't pay any attention unless it pertains to my narrow focus. Other wise its too much talk with zero out come towards my main focus. why even entertain anyone in discussing true noise gain ?? Now, if one said they had an idea to try which might work.... I'll entertain that with you. Ultra high feedback, dual opamps, might work in filter circuit but I haven't seen one good enough.... show me.
THx-RNMarsh
If you can even find a CLT-1. You need 2 to measure thru performance. One is only good for passive nonlinearity. The inductors are on Ferrite cores. Retuning it to 1 KHz probably won't work, too many issues. Its time to design inductors that will be distortion free at lower frequencies and usable currents. It must be possible. I would start with a Mumetal core and run it at very low flux. Or manye you have access to super conductors? If the frequency is above 1 KHz Litz wire would be important and will special winding techniques to minimize capacitance etc. . .
Seems one will do it.... I am filtering a signal generator.... unbal output. Low voltage and current.
Let me know if you see one for sale (CLT-1). meanwhile I'll be reading best way to wind high L values and keep high Q also. There are some excellent cores out of Germany.
THx-Richard
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Hey out there! I am looking for people in easy commute to Berkeley to work with to make audio projects. I have lots of extra parts and pretty good test equipment. Anybody want to make analog audio projects with me?
What can I do for the cause with you?
-Richard
Ask for the impossible
Ever hear the R&D management say ----
"Be realistic. Demand the Impossible."
-RM
Standard operating procedure. , who cares, anyway?
Ever hear the R&D management say ----
"Be realistic. Demand the Impossible."
-RM
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This is more alike to asking that a bowling ball fly upwards on its own accord rather than following the spirit of your adage.
Thanks guys for responding to my call. Unfortunately, only the 'heavy hitters' mostly an inconvenient distance away, have responded, and I hope to hear from less experienced, but equally enthusiastic people who want to build something audio, but don't have the resources or experience to really do it easily.
JC...
That is a very good offer and it is sad that few suitable candidates have contacted you so far.
I would suggest that you start a new thread - simply because this thread has become a pretty closed shop and seldom has much of interest to the type of candidates you require.
That is a very good offer and it is sad that few suitable candidates have contacted you so far.
I would suggest that you start a new thread - simply because this thread has become a pretty closed shop and seldom has much of interest to the type of candidates you require.
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