Maybe you should put a brick on it so it won't jump off the desk
from all the bass.
Is that HFNRR test LP worth it? I can't get my self to buy anything from ChardasI do have a full set of the RCA's with only a few plays
Test records of the past deserve some respect.
At least they were calibrated (like cm/s for modulation velocity or micrometers for lateral groove waviness) and the frequency of modulation was exact.
George
>Edit. Having a set of these records is another plus.
Using more than one test LP will help you identify which part of W&F and low freq artifacts you measure is due to your TT and which is due to the test record(s).
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Infortunately, dvv, you're still missing the point - as most here are. I have enough amplifier horsepower in the house right now, and speakers, and drivers, to put something together capable of completely destroying a listener's eardrums in 5 minutes, cleanly. But I have not the slightest interest in doing that - my "thing" is to understand what generates convincing, not 'impressive', sound - the latter can be found in the couple of decent high end stores in Sydney, any day of the week. And for me what is fascinating is that the cheap stuff does enough right to make "convincing" happen - unlike 98% of the expensive stuff at the recent hifi show ... my curiosity is, how far can you push throwaway gear to give 'big' sound - and the remarkable answer is, a great deal.
The organ piece that Karl posted plays cleanly on the PCs, at maximum volume, but the bump stop of headroom comes in, needs another 12dB or so of volume range to match the real thing - which is why one does get bigger amplifiers, more capable speakers. But within the limitations of what it is, it does an excellent job - vastly better in subjective terms than the majority of what I heard at that audio show.
More is best , one is better than none, I only have 3 ....
The RCA STR series was made by engineers afterall, even an AES paper.
EDIT - I have to admit the later pressings sold by Audio Amateur were wavy gravey and noisy.
See what I mean, dvv? Completely missing the point ... the aim is to produce convincing sound; once that is achieved, one understands what is important for making it happen, then it is merely a scaling exercise to go as "loud" as one wants.I think Frank, PC Frank should open his own thread. Creating audiophile sound from inexpensive pc speakers. He can be the guru on that thread!
Two main things interest me at the moment - making something supercheap, and simple do a decent job of it; and something capable of hitting 132dB transient peaks that subjectively is producing 'correct' sound. Anything in the middle is neither here nor there ...
Thanks for your interest, Antonio, I'd be happy to discuss your fiddling further ... just so that we don't disturb the workings of the great minds here,
, would you like to kick off a thread somewhere and we can have a decent chat?
Silly boy, at a technical level this is trivial to achieve, right now - but is it worth listening to? That's what makes it an interesting challenge, achieving the desired standard of replay.132db transient peaks ....
Yeah Franky .....
No interest Frank, preserving the old ears , not exposing myself to more than 100-108 db on the rare occasion the music calls for it.
No need dear boy ..
At amplifier concerts , the music starts and i reach over to the wife , she hands me the ear plugs, standard fare .....
No interest Frank, preserving the old ears , not exposing myself to more than 100-108 db on the rare occasion the music calls for it.
No need dear boy ..
At amplifier concerts , the music starts and i reach over to the wife , she hands me the ear plugs, standard fare .....
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Trouble is, that's what turns so many blokes on - the audio equivalent of lots of flashing, coloured lights, what the ghettoblasters specialised in a few year ago - it looks impressive, so it must be good!
I remember being in a service station, and a Ferrari was topping up - I waited until he took off, it sounded like a little Kia moving on ... obviously a gutless wonder,
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And the reason is, that the ears react badly to poor quality sound at high levels, for some reason they can't protect themselves as well as when the same decibels are produced cleanly. This has been noted many times, at an anecdotal level, I would be greatly surprised if no-one has seriously researched this.At amplifier concerts , the music starts and i reach over to the wife , she hands me the ear plugs, standard fare .....
I listened to a huge Chinese firecracker 'chandelier' go off for about 10 minutes once - I would say, easily hitting 130-140 dB constantly, I was temporarily almost deaf afterwards, from the ears protecting themselves - but had no long term effects at all ...
i thot he was talking about the black stuff behind our eyeballs where the words come from....
"There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge."
LOL. Hilarious.
You sound like you once read Lobsang Rampa
We did that last week (you know the guys with the krank medical devices too), your loyalty is being tested.
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