$480 in current group buy
Those are the 200T with 2in adapter which are available to the US in the current group buy for $480 each.
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Revintage. That's a mighty good looking horn and FR plot you've got going there. The waterfall looks very good, too. Sure, there is a 5dB rise thru the midrange, but it's wide and smooth, quite remarkable.
I'm looking forward to seeing more if you get the chance. Phase/Group delay, and H2, H3 distortion should also look very good.
Were they made by Zagaja in Poland?
Those are the 200T with 2in adapter which are available to the US in the current group buy for $480 each.
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JMLC
Those are the 200T with 2in adapter which are available to the US in the current group buy for $480 each
Ours are called 200T. They where made to our specifications. No adapter and optimized for OS 2" JBL. So I guess Lukasz/Jack have started to produce them. Good thing😎!
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No adapter?
There is no adapter? What is the purpose of the ring which is part way up the throat? That looks like a joining of two pieces to go from 4inch to 2inch.
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There is no adapter? What is the purpose of the ring which is part way up the throat? That looks like a joining of two pieces to go from 4inch to 2inch.
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Ours are called 200T. They where made to our specifications. No adapter and optimized for OS 2" JBL. So I guess Lukasz/Jack have started to produce them. Good thing😎!
Frode,
You are so right, the short horn(ballpark figures, L=35cm, At=400cm2, Am=3600cm2) will be in the front of the 414 and the bassreflex at the rear.
Not so different from what I'm using at the moment.
Frode

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Thanks for explaining. So the price list of the group buy was probably correct in the first place. JMLC200T with 2in entry $400. Add $80 for 4in entry instead. The JMLC350 is a good deal at $200 and can be ordered cut to any entry size from 1-1.4-2in same price.
It is for fitting a supports.
Thanks for explaining. So the price list of the group buy was probably correct in the first place. JMLC200T with 2in entry $400. Add $80 for 4in entry instead. The JMLC350 is a good deal at $200 and can be ordered cut to any entry size from 1-1.4-2in same price.
Very nice speaker Frode,Not so different from what I'm using at the moment.
Frode
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Do you have measurements or the HF-Horn that one of Jean Michel looks attractive for a 2" HF-driver I have.
Regards,Helmuth
Very nice speaker Frode,
Do you have measurements or the HF-Horn that one of Jean Michel looks attractive for a 2" HF-driver I have.
Regards,Helmuth
Just one from listening position with active XO at 300Hz and the original BMS passive XO at 6-7kHz.
Frode

Just one from listening position with active XO at 300Hz and the original BMS passive XO at 6-7kHz.
Frode
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Wouw!
Very nice! Is that the JMLC350 you are using?
Also: Your plot above is with no EQ or other filter? How was it driven - the connection from amp to compression driver?
BTW, the scale is super large 150dB, which makes it look flatter. Do you think we can agree on a vertical scale when posting here? It would help.
Also: Your plot above is with no EQ or other filter? How was it driven - the connection from amp to compression driver?
BTW, the scale is super large 150dB, which makes it look flatter. Do you think we can agree on a vertical scale when posting here? It would help.
Very nice! Is that the JMLC350 you are using?
Also: Your plot above is with no EQ or other filter? How was it driven - the connection from amp to compression driver?
BTW, the scale is super large 150dB, which makes it look flatter. Do you think we can agree on a vertical scale when posting here? It would help.
I use the Iwata 300 with the BMS 4592ND. A 2A3 amp sends the signal to the original XO(1st picture below). A simulated result after EQ and roomcorrection is shown below. The plan is to replace the passive XO with an active.
Sorry about the scale, this is just screenshots from Audiolense software. If anyone is interested in a closer look, I can send them the impulse response as a .pcm file.
I need to learn more about measuring, but as long as the system sounds as good as now, it's hard to find inspiration.
Frode


BTW, the scale is super large 150dB, which makes it look flatter. Do you think we can agree on a vertical scale when posting here? It would help.
Made a new screenshot which reveals more.
Frode

Nice plot !
50dB range usually is a good starting place - you are quite close
How far measured from mouth?
Michael
50dB range usually is a good starting place - you are quite close
How far measured from mouth?
Michael
Nice plot !
50dB range usually is a good starting place - you are quite close
How far measured from mouth?
Michael
I'm guessing 4-5m(~13-16ft) from the mouth. I realize I have to make a more serious measurement to present in this thread, but it won't happen today.
Frode
So its a pink noise measurement including room effects ?
Michael
Well, now I'm in deep water. The room effects is included, but I'm not sure about the pink noise. The Audiolense website mentions "sine log sweeps", does this tell you anything?
Frode
Well, now I'm in deep water. The room effects is included, but I'm not sure about the pink noise. The Audiolense website mentions "sine log sweeps", does this tell you anything?
Frode
It depends 🙂
Anyway - good to know how you did the measurements - thanks
Michael
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