Have you ever considered reissuing the old Aleph industrial design? I love the look of the Aleph 5! Still have an autographed Aleph photo from BA framed on the wall 😁 I’ve been looking to buy a nice 5 for a while now but I’m either too cheap or too slow
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Nelson has addressed the issue before:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/official-m2-schematic.281520/page-6#post-4497214
Nelson has addressed the issue before:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/official-m2-schematic.281520/page-6#post-4497214
oh boy ...... there is no limit to my self-adulation ........ even when I (from time to time) find so obvious chunks of enormous wittiness, I'm not surprised, even thinking that I need to start cataloging these ....... then realizing that I already have my self - as best catalog of my self
......there somewhere lies key to Papa's constant Green - he's aware of his own catalognessssssssssssss
what's today's value of 1995's 2K$?
web sez *1.92
that's cheap for an Icon!!
(even if you ignore that every Papamp is an Icon)
he earned that ......... behind all that Green lies very hard work
and. let's be realistic .... things are having even more weight, knowing that even Mighty ZM is imitating Pa, in some things
That's a Cello Audio Palette.
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/tas-legacy-cello-palette-equalizer-preamplifier
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/tas-legacy-cello-palette-equalizer-preamplifier
I liked this part of the site; marketing at its finest!
I didnt accept their "cookies" while I visited...
I didnt accept their "cookies" while I visited...
All of this gnashing of teeth over someone making a heatsink that is no longer used in a FW or PASS product?
This seems otherworldly to me.
No surprise since there is no respect for IP in the east. Here we just change things just enough to slip past the patent. We are not even talking about patents here.
So someone buys an amplifier from these folks. Brings it here and its value is nothing. It is theirs forever as opposed to buying the real thing which has intrinsic value.
A few years ago I wanted to make my J2 into monoblocks. Mr. Pass had no interest in selling me a FW box and I completely understood. I suspect it was this same fellow who offered his take on the FW format. The face plate was much thinner and painted instead of brushed but the heatsinks seemed to be the same quality and the back, top and bottom could be reproduced easily by anybody. I certainly had no qualms about getting these since it was the only way forward with the project. When I mentioned this here there was this same gnashing of teeth which took me completely by surprise. I had purchased fourteen thousand dollars of FW gear and I am being told I am a bad person by people who I suspect had never purchased anything from Mr. Pass. I got one thousand dollars off on my SIT 1s by getting a DEMO.
Heatsinks for amplifiers are a very limited market and there is not much choice. I too have long admired the ALEPH look and can easily see someone wanting to use these and why they should feel any embarrassment for doing so is a mystery to me.
They look far more useful to a FW cloner than the MODUSHOP stuff - which is fine as far as it goes but the heat sinks, in my unhumble opinion, are skimpy and I do not see how they are up tot the task of a class A amplifier unless you connect a bunch of them together and end up with an amplifier the size of some German monster amp and then you have to add plates to connect them.
I have no trouble understanding concern when someone reproduces a Pass design closely without permission and without compensation for the use but to get excited about the heat sinks is very strange to me.
If FIRST WATT was selling these pieces that would be a very different story but that is not the story. I get the feeling I am seeing the sad affect of virtue signaling in the audio DIY world.
Where does it end? All analog amplifiers are more alike than different. I am waiting for the DeForest estate to start asking for compensation from everyone. There was that kook who kept trying to sue the Ford Motor Company for years since he had a patent on the car. He never got anywhere but threw lots of money at lawyers. They were always glad to assist.
This seems otherworldly to me.
No surprise since there is no respect for IP in the east. Here we just change things just enough to slip past the patent. We are not even talking about patents here.
So someone buys an amplifier from these folks. Brings it here and its value is nothing. It is theirs forever as opposed to buying the real thing which has intrinsic value.
A few years ago I wanted to make my J2 into monoblocks. Mr. Pass had no interest in selling me a FW box and I completely understood. I suspect it was this same fellow who offered his take on the FW format. The face plate was much thinner and painted instead of brushed but the heatsinks seemed to be the same quality and the back, top and bottom could be reproduced easily by anybody. I certainly had no qualms about getting these since it was the only way forward with the project. When I mentioned this here there was this same gnashing of teeth which took me completely by surprise. I had purchased fourteen thousand dollars of FW gear and I am being told I am a bad person by people who I suspect had never purchased anything from Mr. Pass. I got one thousand dollars off on my SIT 1s by getting a DEMO.
Heatsinks for amplifiers are a very limited market and there is not much choice. I too have long admired the ALEPH look and can easily see someone wanting to use these and why they should feel any embarrassment for doing so is a mystery to me.
They look far more useful to a FW cloner than the MODUSHOP stuff - which is fine as far as it goes but the heat sinks, in my unhumble opinion, are skimpy and I do not see how they are up tot the task of a class A amplifier unless you connect a bunch of them together and end up with an amplifier the size of some German monster amp and then you have to add plates to connect them.
I have no trouble understanding concern when someone reproduces a Pass design closely without permission and without compensation for the use but to get excited about the heat sinks is very strange to me.
If FIRST WATT was selling these pieces that would be a very different story but that is not the story. I get the feeling I am seeing the sad affect of virtue signaling in the audio DIY world.
Where does it end? All analog amplifiers are more alike than different. I am waiting for the DeForest estate to start asking for compensation from everyone. There was that kook who kept trying to sue the Ford Motor Company for years since he had a patent on the car. He never got anywhere but threw lots of money at lawyers. They were always glad to assist.
I came across a thread elsewhere on the SIT-A15 model. The details below are what's been shared:
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[When asked about the OS device and comparisons to DEFiSIT like SissySIT]
... it turns out that unlike most of the SIT amps this is not based on the DEFiSIT principal pioneered by Nelson Pass for the First Watt SIT-3 though rather Cyclotron...
(Buyer asked Absolute Audio about the details) Watchara has said:
No need PP for SIT because you can't control each phase symmetry and very expensive to get L - R absolute inphase
I've tried with SIT-3 before
But SIT CYCLOTRON can works very well for SE-PP
It was symmetrical SE with POS a d NEG phase operating
The only Cyclotron SIT I could find info on was this here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/sit-2sk82-circlotron-power-buffer.275329/
I mentioned the thread to Watchara:
Yes, but my cyclotron more complexity
With constant current source and bias trim.
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[When asked about the OS device and comparisons to DEFiSIT like SissySIT]
... it turns out that unlike most of the SIT amps this is not based on the DEFiSIT principal pioneered by Nelson Pass for the First Watt SIT-3 though rather Cyclotron...
(Buyer asked Absolute Audio about the details) Watchara has said:
No need PP for SIT because you can't control each phase symmetry and very expensive to get L - R absolute inphase
I've tried with SIT-3 before
But SIT CYCLOTRON can works very well for SE-PP
It was symmetrical SE with POS a d NEG phase operating
The only Cyclotron SIT I could find info on was this here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/sit-2sk82-circlotron-power-buffer.275329/
I mentioned the thread to Watchara:
Yes, but my cyclotron more complexity
With constant current source and bias trim.
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I know that Richard Marsh does not work with this guy, he works with different company.
It's the next big thing... haven't you heard? Instantaneous current delivery through particle accelerators. The results are smashing. 😛Presumably he means Circlotron, since a cylotron is a whole different animal.
Indeed. My limited knowledge leads me to believe Circlotrons are pretty interesting (and many audiophiles seem to hold them in some mythical regards) but also come with some inherent disadvantages in the modern era (like what happens when you accidentally short the outputs?) One of these days, I'd love to read some blogs about this kind of stuff from Papa. Maybe it already exists and I'm just not aware lol
Anyway, imitation is indeed the most sincere form of flattery. 🙂
Can't blame them for copying it... Aleph3 is a technical and visual masterpiece. There's so much to like.
Cyclotron is what he wrote.Presumably he means Circlotron, since a cylotron is a whole different animal.
