Hi.
It is audible but it can be made inaudible provided VTA is set up correctly.
In this age of sonic perfection, recordings flawlessly manipulated, analogue mystique no longer has a place.
Cheers,
jlsem said:
Do you clean them thoroughly before you play them, even when brand new? Even so, I said the noise from vinyl is inaudible, not unmeasurable.😉
John
It is audible but it can be made inaudible provided VTA is set up correctly.
In this age of sonic perfection, recordings flawlessly manipulated, analogue mystique no longer has a place.
Cheers,

I just changed my speaker cables today from the orange Home Depot extension cord to outdoor lighting cable, which is black- The Eye Lady told me that the orange Had To Go.
The sound is now darker and more open.
The sound is now darker and more open.
We played one of her favorite albums- Steve Terrell's "Picnic Time for Potatoheads" to check out the new setup. She wasn't impressed with the difference.
jlsem said:If you are talking about noise from dirty, damaged or otherwise abused records, I understand. Otherwise, any noise from the vinyl itself is inaudible.
John
What a nice shiny world you live in!
That is so untrue as to be laughable!
SY said:I just changed my speaker cables today from the orange Home Depot extension cord to outdoor lighting cable, which is black- The Eye Lady told me that the orange Had To Go.
The sound is now darker and more open.
Shoe polish?
cliffforrest said:
What a nice shiny world you live in!
That is so untrue as to be laughable!
I have to admit the tape hiss is clearly audible over the surface noise on several of my favorite LP's.
Hi,
Just pataphysical metaphorical paradoxical noise.
Honnest.
Cheers, 😉
scott wurcer said:
Shoe polish?
Just pataphysical metaphorical paradoxical noise.
Honnest.
Cheers, 😉
I was suggesting painting the cables with boot black. It might still darken the sound, but how can you say without listening first?
SY said:We played one of her favorite albums- Steve Terrell's "Picnic Time for Potatoheads" to check out the new setup. She wasn't impressed with the difference.
I've heard that women are not as visual as men.
What a nice shiny world you live in!
That is so untrue as to be laughable!
Listen, you don't know me, I've never met you, I don't know what your problem is, but I know this: The system I listen to as a reference exhibits no audible noise between tracks when playing music with 100dB peaks. It is dead quiet. I'm sorry your records are noisy, but I don't have any control over that.
John
It is dead quiet. I'm sorry your records are noisy, but I don't have any control over that.
Playing at 100dB (at the listening position or measured 2" from the speaker?) and no noise between tracks?
I achieve the same, with a behringer denoiser....
but without it .....
But then again, I run only a td 125 with a dl 103, and an MG1 airarm, not high end after all...
maybe its my tonearm cable...or my IC's...
fdegrove said:........Plastic? Yikes.
You'll need natural materials son. Like cotton, silk.....
Don't forget the rubber! I made up power cords using some old rubber sheathed cable that had fine unplated copper strands wrapped in cotton. The sound was good ... organic, when I listened to the PVC ones again they sounded less organic and ... like plastic! FWIW.
Playing at 100dB (at the listening position or measured 2" from the speaker?) and no noise between tracks?
100dB PEAKS. At one meter. My apologies for using a cheap Tenma dB meter, but it's what I have.
John
Cliff, John etal, let's move on please.
You are discussing vinyl noise in an all important cable thread. If it weren't for this thread we would be using far too little bandwidth discussing far too few actually important topics.
You are discussing vinyl noise in an all important cable thread. If it weren't for this thread we would be using far too little bandwidth discussing far too few actually important topics.
I've heard of people painting speakers, chips and components with special fluids, but a flexible coating that one applies to cables could be the next big thing.scott wurcer said:I was suggesting painting the cables with boot black. ........
fredex said:
I've heard of people painting speakers, chips and components with special fluids, but a flexible coating that one applies to cables could be the next big thing.
Mainly addressing the WAF here, but with those DIY ESL panels I would think the orange cables were a minor threat.
fredex said:
I've heard of people painting speakers, chips and components with special fluids, but a flexible coating that one applies to cables could be the next big thing.
Ooh ooh can we name it "Cable Op". Lots of money in marking up things that cost next to nothing. I'm in!
You are discussing vinyl noise in an all important cable thread.
Oh, I think the vinyl posts are pertinent to the gist of the thread, i.e. audiophiles hear things that aren't there and don't hear things that are.

John
SY said:Doppler.
Most likely. But the effect surprised me. Maybe it added harmonics? Sounded like it.
fdegrove said:....but have you also considered how elecromotors' interference can wreck havoc with that mains supply?
Yes, but not the case here. There is an isolation transfo between the fan motor and the audio circuit. Plus, all I was doing was moving my head slightly right and left. Fan stayed on. 😀
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