This is actually one of the reasons I prefer listening to recorded music in the format it was originally released in. I’ll also go out of my way to watch a silent film I’ve seen before if it’s being shown in a theater with a live score. For modern music that has been recorded and sequenced without regard for a particular playback medium, I have no preference for analog over digital.
I had a tour of the national center in Ottawa recording center a few years ago. They had if I remember after all those years both digital and multitrack tape recorders to later mix it or store for archival. All major performances are recorded.
I was told the microphones are worth around 100K each which I presume was an exaggeration.
Very big machines, lots of controls and tapes, at the time I was not interested much in audio.
On two live recordings of concerts to publish CDs (Archiv production, the other was Opus111 I think) a relative was coughing loudly during all concerts near the front row of seats. They could never release the concert CDs, it was impossible to keep the quality of the sound and remove the noises. Different standards.
I was told the microphones are worth around 100K each which I presume was an exaggeration.
Very big machines, lots of controls and tapes, at the time I was not interested much in audio.
On two live recordings of concerts to publish CDs (Archiv production, the other was Opus111 I think) a relative was coughing loudly during all concerts near the front row of seats. They could never release the concert CDs, it was impossible to keep the quality of the sound and remove the noises. Different standards.
The highest price for a quality mic couldn't have been more than $3K back then. One of the most expensive was the Calrec Soundfield developed from the work of Michael Gerzon and Peter Craven. The four capsules alignment permitted stereo phase to be maintained to 10KHz. I saw an experimental room with 12 speakers designed to create 3D sound from the mic. Four channels are required for recording. The sound focus can be steered afterwards. I had a chance to play with the control unit and the effect was like moving a cardiod mic around the recording space. The patent has since expired so there are other manufacturers now.
Live recording generally needs close mic-ing. Otherwise it is pot luck and the sound of the venue needs to be minimized. A lot of live recordings are simply terrible.
Live recording generally needs close mic-ing. Otherwise it is pot luck and the sound of the venue needs to be minimized. A lot of live recordings are simply terrible.
The whole point of a live recording is you want it to sound like you are in the venue. I don't want my orchestra to be recreated in post production a la DG. A lot of live recordings ARE terrible. Those are the ones recorded with dozens of close mics.
live orchestral recordings are recorded in quadraphonic
other peripheral microphones are used for applauses and close microphones are also used for close recording of solists.
other peripheral microphones are used for applauses and close microphones are also used for close recording of solists.
That can get a lot less terrible with good speakers and great acoustics. When I had both there were a lot of recording I dug up that had seemed boring or unlistenable before. Suddenly they were a joy, even with obvious limitations.
I think some of the Lyrita disks that make the super lists were two mic only recordings. With a good setup you could get that impossible seat in the rafters over the orchestra,
I still rather like the Cozart-fine mercury recordings with 3 mics. I am not aware of anyone recording in quadrophonic though. Ambience microphones yes, but that is emphatically NOT quad.
Well I saw the equipment and was told by the staff. They can record the full orchestra with 4 microphones, they are hanging from the ceiling.
I have no idea how they do the 6.1 audio, to me it is al craps.
Quadraphonic actually is pretty common on masters. Some vinyl have quad channels. New types of stylus were developed to track the quadraphonic. However, I am not interested, stereo distorts enough the sound already.
Quadraphonic actually is pretty common on masters. Some vinyl have quad channels. New types of stylus were developed to track the quadraphonic. However, I am not interested, stereo distorts enough the sound already.
All this is silly now
The latest adda is superb. What is needed is a large magazine type publication per and regarding the recording taking the place of the "album jacket" packaged along with a thumbdrive in hi res. This won't happen because it will soon be illegal to have hard copies IMO
Hope not. And there BTW, is the *REAL* actual value of existing Vinyl, CDs, tape etc. You can touch it!
The latest adda is superb. What is needed is a large magazine type publication per and regarding the recording taking the place of the "album jacket" packaged along with a thumbdrive in hi res. This won't happen because it will soon be illegal to have hard copies IMO
Hope not. And there BTW, is the *REAL* actual value of existing Vinyl, CDs, tape etc. You can touch it!
search on the net for quadraphonic records, there are around 450 for sale labeled as such on the Ama(...) site, there are a lot more. I have a few also, they play stereo perfectly.
mmm 1000 for sale on E(...)
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Quadrophonic existed for a very short period of time in the 70s. That is known to anyone who was either there or has the power of google. However to stretch that to 'live orchestral recordings are recorded in quadraphonic' is extreme.
Just to repeat. Using 4 microphones does not make something quadrophonic. It just means there were 4 tracks recorded to mix to two for release.
Just to repeat. Using 4 microphones does not make something quadrophonic. It just means there were 4 tracks recorded to mix to two for release.
I know, the point is not the records, it is that in live recordings they use many microphones.
In the art center in Ottawa, they use 4 microphones for 'ambiance' from the ceiling, there are 2 others when they record applauses. and if there is a piano they use 2 more near it, or sometimes 2 near the conductor, everything is recorded for archival. At least 4 tracks are keep. That was only my point, 4 tracks. I thought they could remove someone coughing but they cannot. I heard a few live recordings and you can hear people coughing.
In the art center in Ottawa, they use 4 microphones for 'ambiance' from the ceiling, there are 2 others when they record applauses. and if there is a piano they use 2 more near it, or sometimes 2 near the conductor, everything is recorded for archival. At least 4 tracks are keep. That was only my point, 4 tracks. I thought they could remove someone coughing but they cannot. I heard a few live recordings and you can hear people coughing.
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