Now here are the pictures of the placed vibraflex a amount of 2,25kg on the panels.
By tapping the side panels you can here the effect of the damping. Without you hear for about 0.3sec the panels resonance. With the bitumen it extinguish, faster and the tone got warmer sound.
I wasn't pleased with the damping of the lower panels and ad some more bracing this is very effective.
To prevent the echo sound of a hollow drum the panels become a absorbing layer.
There was not enough light to make nice photo's sorry.
By tapping the side panels you can here the effect of the damping. Without you hear for about 0.3sec the panels resonance. With the bitumen it extinguish, faster and the tone got warmer sound.
I wasn't pleased with the damping of the lower panels and ad some more bracing this is very effective.
To prevent the echo sound of a hollow drum the panels become a absorbing layer.
There was not enough light to make nice photo's sorry.
Helmuth...
great pictures and documentation!
seeing your implementation negates any concerns I might have has regarding construction, except of course my "anti"-MDF position. Solid wood (or even small offcuts of Baltic Birch) would be better for the bracing, I think.
It will be interesting to see what the end result is like in terms of your listening impressions. I am sure they will be very positive.
So these are for a college instructor? or a college? or as part of a course you are taking? That much I did not get from your introduction (Dutch to English translation)--this is not a criticism of your English.
stew
great pictures and documentation!
seeing your implementation negates any concerns I might have has regarding construction, except of course my "anti"-MDF position. Solid wood (or even small offcuts of Baltic Birch) would be better for the bracing, I think.
It will be interesting to see what the end result is like in terms of your listening impressions. I am sure they will be very positive.
So these are for a college instructor? or a college? or as part of a course you are taking? That much I did not get from your introduction (Dutch to English translation)--this is not a criticism of your English.
stew
Nanook,
Helmuth probably meant collegue as in friend?
Helmuth,
The last graph with "sandwich ply", what does it mean?
Peter
Helmuth probably meant collegue as in friend?
Helmuth,
The last graph with "sandwich ply", what does it mean?
Peter
Hi Stew,
For a college how had bin working in audio business he did sales. And he told about how he loves to visit live concerts.
That way we became talking about audio and he was interested in my view on hifi. (Stereo and quality speakers because there is much to improve, most amplifiers will do great.)
After that I became inspirited to design a speaker witch would satisfy his design taste, and with great performance and appearance for a budget price.
This is for me a way to see my ideas come to live and become more experienced in building.
Here a active 2 way backloadedhorn with 4 visaton TI100 titanium chassis (the small horn) and titanium dome tweeter that I have build for my self in 2000. The big horn was a experiment.
Now I am using bandpass low and TI100 lowmid Morel tweeter
Here a TL-project that I made for my neighbers.
For a college how had bin working in audio business he did sales. And he told about how he loves to visit live concerts.
That way we became talking about audio and he was interested in my view on hifi. (Stereo and quality speakers because there is much to improve, most amplifiers will do great.)
After that I became inspirited to design a speaker witch would satisfy his design taste, and with great performance and appearance for a budget price.
This is for me a way to see my ideas come to live and become more experienced in building.
Here a active 2 way backloadedhorn with 4 visaton TI100 titanium chassis (the small horn) and titanium dome tweeter that I have build for my self in 2000. The big horn was a experiment.
Now I am using bandpass low and TI100 lowmid Morel tweeter
Here a TL-project that I made for my neighbers.
Helmuth,
You will make me dig a whole and bury mine tools😉
These speakers are artistic work!
More pictures please!
Peter
You will make me dig a whole and bury mine tools😉
These speakers are artistic work!
More pictures please!
Peter
@Peter
sandwich 18mm birch chipwood.
See this link
http://www.hsi-luidsprekers.nl/kastmaterialenonderzoek.htm
sandwich 18mm birch chipwood.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
See this link
http://www.hsi-luidsprekers.nl/kastmaterialenonderzoek.htm
Helmuth....
yes, a collegue....
thanks peterbrorsson
Helmuth, all the projects look excellent. The fact that a pair of speakers that you built in 2000 continues to satisfy you must be a testament to the design.
stew (I'm not always overly critical🙂 )
yes, a collegue....
thanks peterbrorsson
Helmuth, all the projects look excellent. The fact that a pair of speakers that you built in 2000 continues to satisfy you must be a testament to the design.
stew (I'm not always overly critical🙂 )
Sounded very transparent deep stage. Due horn impulse behaviour and active set up.
Only inference distortion off four chassis began to irritate. And the response was not flat enough and sub bas is a problem with a horn.
I now have for my self a concept full front loaded response from 35Hz and higher .
With a hybrid triode class A 8W amplifier. It is only a question off time🙄
For now I am waiting for a 24bit DAC to arrive to connect al digital devices to.
I am listening to a yaqin mc10 that I bought second hand in my vacation sounds very good with JJ KT77 and 6n1p EB and 6n23p eb connected to the bandpass 3 way.
One day I want to sell them commercially when they work well.
Here are some picture off the bottom plate this will cover the bottem acces. And also make a little foot off 12mm.
With a speed drill I made a little offset for the head off the screw.
The parts that where saw out will I glue to the cover creating a bottom cover off 36mm thick MDF.
Regards Helmuth
With a speed drill I made a little offset for the head off the screw.
The parts that where saw out will I glue to the cover creating a bottom cover off 36mm thick MDF.
Regards Helmuth
Next step the back plane off the mid speaker compartment.
.
To see if it levels up good put in a piece of mdf.
a look inside the top of the box.
The glue seals every hole to sub enclosure.
To see if it levels up good put in a piece of mdf.
a look inside the top of the box.
The glue seals every hole to sub enclosure.
Hi music lovers some goodies have arrived here.
I have waited for 2 and a half week for the stuff.
Nice thick speaker connection M6 tread no gold bling bling doesn't fit the subtle design and some chrome spikes Monacor.
To connect everything properly inside I use silver plated copper wire 2.5mm^2.
And here it is the black gold. A Monacor twin coil sub black kevlar cone rubber surround with ventilated pool plate. Al mounted in a sturdy aluminium frame.😎
Monacor is a German brand but a sticker tells me it is made in Taiwan. It is really great deal for the buck (110 euro) very good materials and TS-parameters.
First intention was to use a aluminium woofer but the one I selected was obsolete. The Monacor was more expensive but top materials en parameters I love it.🙂
A magnet a few cm bigger than a cd.😀
The frame as thick as a usb stick.
There is a down side I have to send one sub back. Of this one the cone is of centre and you can hear the voice coil rubs the pool plate.🙁 So building quality lacks.
I have waited for 2 and a half week for the stuff.
Nice thick speaker connection M6 tread no gold bling bling doesn't fit the subtle design and some chrome spikes Monacor.
To connect everything properly inside I use silver plated copper wire 2.5mm^2.
And here it is the black gold. A Monacor twin coil sub black kevlar cone rubber surround with ventilated pool plate. Al mounted in a sturdy aluminium frame.😎
Monacor is a German brand but a sticker tells me it is made in Taiwan. It is really great deal for the buck (110 euro) very good materials and TS-parameters.
First intention was to use a aluminium woofer but the one I selected was obsolete. The Monacor was more expensive but top materials en parameters I love it.🙂
A magnet a few cm bigger than a cd.😀
The frame as thick as a usb stick.
There is a down side I have to send one sub back. Of this one the cone is of centre and you can hear the voice coil rubs the pool plate.🙁 So building quality lacks.
I made some cut outs in the baffle.
The Monacor trumpet shape reflex pipe I use. Will reduce the noise of the air passing it. It got also a conical shape to the backside.
It fits very nice the trumpet shape.
I use imbus screws to mount the speaker gives a nice robust touch to the appearance.
The Monacor trumpet shape reflex pipe I use. Will reduce the noise of the air passing it. It got also a conical shape to the backside.
It fits very nice the trumpet shape.
I use imbus screws to mount the speaker gives a nice robust touch to the appearance.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Helmuth, very nice build...
and documentation and...
As you are not using what I might call "typical" construction (read that as typically basic construction), any concerns regarding the material of choice have been negated.
your care and attention to detail is very evident. it may not be my "taste" in speaker design, but you certainly addressed almost every concern along the way.
stew
and documentation and...
As you are not using what I might call "typical" construction (read that as typically basic construction), any concerns regarding the material of choice have been negated.
your care and attention to detail is very evident. it may not be my "taste" in speaker design, but you certainly addressed almost every concern along the way.
stew
thanks😀
Hi stew,
My favourite choice would be a full range horn. 😉 for a low power amp.
But the colleague let me come on with a design his only wish was a bassreflex and impressive low frequency response and we looked what kind of design he liked.
This in combination with my restrictions off building a professional looking box and budget is the reason of the made choices. This one will become a ridicules 200 Watt nominal 300W music power.
This is more by accident so high due the used 10" kevlar sub.🙂
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