Hi Guys;
I will leave this thread as fast as I have entered, so pardon me for Intruding. I am in way over my head. I wound up here as a result of a search for a steep roll off (greater than 24 db/octave) crossover.
I stumbled upon the miniDSP 4x10 HD, thinking this may be the ultimate answer for my very large 3 way, 2 channel system.
I am not up to constructing something from scratch. This unit seems to be able to take a digital signal from a CD or DVD player, (and laptop source?) eliminate my equalizer and crossover units.
I have not found detailed specs regarding this unit, but I sense that it is not warmly received by all here. I did see that it could somehow use REW to equalize and otherwise adjust the system.
Pardon my ignorance in this area, but if this is not the ideal unit, could you point me in the right direction,
Thanks Peter
PS: My old Rane AC 23 crossover has caused me more than enough grief. Just thought now is the time to join the 21 century!
Audioweaver supports crossovers up to 10th order and they are very easy to implement too ! Not only that, they are computationally efficient and can run at 192KHz 😉
regards
david
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I think I have found my Christmas present: the miniDSP 4x10 HD!
Cookiemonster; would having the Volume 'post DAC' mean having an 8-ganged pot to control all the outputs? I apologize if this is a dumb question, I am very new to this.
Cookiemonster; would having the Volume 'post DAC' mean having an 8-ganged pot to control all the outputs? I apologize if this is a dumb question, I am very new to this.
Hi David;
Just read your last post, thank you! I must be careful not to fall for the mini without doing all my homework. The price ($499 US) seemed tolerable. I am hoping to keep this below $1000 Canadian, it's just too many new shoes I have to buy for the wife...I will investigate Audioweaver, but I was impressed by the crossover section of the miniDSP 4x10 HD-- selectable slope up to 48 db/octave.
Just read your last post, thank you! I must be careful not to fall for the mini without doing all my homework. The price ($499 US) seemed tolerable. I am hoping to keep this below $1000 Canadian, it's just too many new shoes I have to buy for the wife...I will investigate Audioweaver, but I was impressed by the crossover section of the miniDSP 4x10 HD-- selectable slope up to 48 db/octave.
I hope they will license MQA for DSP crossovers?
Would be nice to have MEMS oscillators for fifty cents 🙂
Would be nice to have MEMS oscillators for fifty cents 🙂
I think I have found my Christmas present: the miniDSP 4x10 HD!
Cookiemonster; would having the Volume 'post DAC' mean having an 8-ganged pot to control all the outputs? I apologize if this is a dumb question, I am very new to this.
Our design uses the 32bit digital volume control built into the Esstech ES9028PRO DAC. No problems with channel matching, wiper noise and wear because it's non existent. It's also fully remote controllable so no clunky and noisy motors. Even at 16 bits of attenuation you still have the full redback resolution of a CD. Not only that we can provide a full color graphics QVGA LCD display of volume and other status 🙂

cheers
david
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Hi David;
129 db DNR! wow! But is there a finished product that uses this module? I am not up to building a unit
129 db DNR! wow! But is there a finished product that uses this module? I am not up to building a unit
Hello everyone. I have updated the information at the start of the thread and on my website at Analog-Precision
If you want a DSP system with a canned user interface that can't really be customized then go with minidsp. If you want cheap 1 dollar DAC's and cheap 50 cent oscillators then go with minidsp. I used a 60 dollar DAC and low phase jitter clocks and so do many hi-end manufacturers 😉
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What about 64 - band EQ with some control similar to Audyssey, instead of "tube-like" distortions that don't add tube-like absence of audible distortions?
What about 64 - band EQ with some control similar to Audyssey, instead of "tube-like" distortions that don't add tube-like absence of audible distortions?
The tube emulator is a plugin that works in 2/8 channel Preamp mode along with other plugins such as soft clipping, precision 32 bit signal generator etc. The 64-Band EQ I was able to do one channel with Audioweaver but it was pushing it at 192KHz but still I did not have to write one line of code 😉
cheers
david
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Waiting for a 64-band EQ. ;-)
Instead of soft clipping there would be better to have a latching compressor - limiter.
Instead of soft clipping there would be better to have a latching compressor - limiter.
Waiting for a 64-band EQ. ;-)
Instead of soft clipping there would be better to have a latching compressor - limiter.
There is. Look above in the attached image. I just implemented one in Audioweaver. Audioweaver also has many different types of compressors and limiters.
Complete Audio Weaver Module List
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David, you would need a DAC with 192dB dynamic to achieve that.Even at 16 bits of attenuation you still have the full redback resolution of a CD.
ESS' built in volume control is nice but not magic 😉
David, you would need a DAC with 192dB dynamic to achieve that.
ESS' built in volume control is nice but not magic 😉
pos,
He's referring to the 32-bit digital volume control implementation. 🙂 I see your point though....it's a somewhat confusing statement as it appears. 🙂
Dave.
David, you would need a DAC with 192dB dynamic to achieve that.
ESS' built in volume control is nice but not magic 😉
Ah, good to know. Then I know what to use for my bad *** stereo system with 192dB capacity and 0dB noise floor...

David, you would need a DAC with 192dB dynamic to achieve that.
ESS' built in volume control is nice but not magic 😉
Yes I know but I just wanted to point out that there is no truncation of bits inside the device before it gets converted to analog. I also provide a 32bit precision sinewave generator 😉
Regards
David
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David, I assume with audio weaver we can import Eq from REW or use FIR filters or banks of biquads we can import etc?
David, I assume with audio weaver we can import Eq from REW or use FIR filters or banks of biquads we can import etc?
Yes in theory you should be able to do that but the data format may be different between the two so may need some massaging.
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Be good to see some demos of how stuff works in due course with some how to instructions for working with REW, rephrase, open DRC etc so potential customers can see it working.
Can audio weaver automate any of the process of room correction which may appeal to those wanting to use this high end solution without the learning curve.
It would be good to think about OEMs a bit as well, so if someone wanted to implement a pair of active speakers with your hardware and amps built-in how could they offer an end user the ability to load say different curves or room Eq wirhoit giving them access all the other goodies that they could make a mess of things with in audio weaver.
Good to see this getting closer.
Can audio weaver automate any of the process of room correction which may appeal to those wanting to use this high end solution without the learning curve.
It would be good to think about OEMs a bit as well, so if someone wanted to implement a pair of active speakers with your hardware and amps built-in how could they offer an end user the ability to load say different curves or room Eq wirhoit giving them access all the other goodies that they could make a mess of things with in audio weaver.
Good to see this getting closer.
Be good to see some demos of how stuff works in due course with some how to instructions for working with REW, rephrase, open DRC etc so potential customers can see it working.
Can audio weaver automate any of the process of room correction which may appeal to those wanting to use this high end solution without the learning curve.
It would be good to think about OEMs a bit as well, so if someone wanted to implement a pair of active speakers with your hardware and amps built-in how could they offer an end user the ability to load say different curves or room Eq wirhoit giving them access all the other goodies that they could make a mess of things with in audio weaver.
Good to see this getting closer.
there are some examples of audioweaver on youtube.
It doesn't automate the room correction process. This is something that may require a dedicated app to achieve. However audioweaver allows you to customize the DSP as though you were writing the DSP code yourself. This seems to be in the spirit of what diy wants to achieve with DSP without the burden of thoroughly understanding the underlying hardware.
Perhaps you can give us the benefit of your experience and insight with some of these packages so I can see what needs to be done.
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Most room correction systems use a process where a correcting (inverse) impulse response is generated from a measured impulse response. Then the correcting impulse response is used to convolve the input (music) signal to correct for room and system as much as possible. Audioweaver seems to have a convolution engine, so it would appear to be possible to load the correcting impulse response into it.
It's not an automated system, but this is DIY...
It's not an automated system, but this is DIY...
It would be good to think about OEMs a bit as well, so if someone wanted to implement a pair of active speakers with your hardware and amps built-in how could they offer an end user the ability to load say different curves or room Eq wirhoit giving them access all the other goodies that they could make a mess of things with in audio weaver.
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Hm, some "public" FIR modules (and possible other types of predefined modules) and the rest is only accessable for the OEM.
Don't know if audioweaver provides this. I'm suprised if it doesn't
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