Have you discovered a digital source, that satisfies you, as much as your Turntable?

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For a few years,

I used a linn sondek LP12 and Moth RIAA amp just for fun..I preferred MM Chiave and changed to a Chorus Black. I prefered the Spacedeck but I wonder whats the point now...

I thought for a while in the 80's that Meridian would be the way forward, however...I use Cyrus for CDs at the moment and have listened to Roksan transports Rock DP1...but what can you do when everything is computerised..😕..now its all in the cloud..😱..I still run a meridian DAC..I'm a bit loathed to even look at anything at the moment its all in constant change.

What ever happened to the Nakamichi cassette deck? Even the Ipod is at the end of its life..Buy it, use it, bin it?
Pride in ownership <<its about 35 seconds..

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M. Gregg
 
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I'm only on my second DAC in 25 years. My Marantz CD80 did me for a long time. A lot of good memories but the much cheaper replacement is a lot better.

YBA is an odd one. His old stuff measured awfully but always reviewed well.

Will be interesting to see how the new Mola-Mola DAC turns out. Not that at $13k I will ever be the target market for it!
 
The best source I have experienced is my YBA CD player. I don't know much about what makes it tick, YBA is very secretive about it. But it's only able to reach this level when playing Chesky recording discs - most other discs are crap in comparison and against those my analog FM tuner does better.
This is an indicator that YBA is going about it the "wrong way" - manipulating the sound. A digital system working well will bring out the best in even the "worst" recordings, allowing one to easily enter the world of the recording space, without irritating one constantly with disturbing artifacts.

The whole point of a musical playback system is to enjoy the event or performance that was captured, and not be constantly reminded of the stage machinery that's helping to create the illusion. If you're forever thinking of how good the technicians were in designing and assembling the machinery while listening, then you might as well throw away your music CDs, and just listen to test tones all day ...
 
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I'm only on my second DAC in 25 years.

Hi do we have to fill in a form to know which dac is ? 🙄
please ... tell us which one is ? 😀

My Marantz CD80 did me for a long time. A lot of good memories but the much cheaper replacement is a lot better.

Actually old Marantz cd players had a very very good sound.

YBA is an odd one. His old stuff measured awfully but always reviewed well....

yes ! i remember the lab test carried-out by Stereophile magazine.
This is the kind of situation that makes me crazy ... very bad measurements and very good sound.
It is possible that the do not measure the right parameters ?
For me that i am an objectivist this is a very very sad thing ...
Thanks a lot for the name of the dac much cheaper that you are using.
Kind regards, gino
 
Now I have a beresford T7510. Cheap off ebay and bought as it fitted the budget and had multiple inputs. Typical UK man in shed company. Strong modder following at the time supported by the designer. Makes music until I finish upgrading the rest of the system. I could mod it but effort/reward is low.
 
Now I have a beresford T7510. Cheap off ebay and bought as it fitted the budget and had multiple inputs. Typical UK man in shed company. Strong modder following at the time supported by the designer. Makes music until I finish upgrading the rest of the system. I could mod it but effort/reward is low.

Hi thanks a lot again. I read great things about this dac. A very good one indeed.
Thanks a lot again. gino
 
Hello.

Yes !

I agree with you
I understand your comparison. You make a matching between upscaling video and audio oversampling. There is also a phenomenon applicable to video and audio: the aliasing. (it's something else)
. The method of oversampling and interpolation brings something unnatural. The stairs are not a big problem, they are naturally filtered through the speakers and especially by the human ear. I already did an interesting experiment to record a 10 kHz signal on magnetic tape from the output of dac. I increased a few the record bias to accentuate the treble.Then, i looked at the signal with an oscilloscope. The stairs were attenued ! I then recorded some music on the tape recorder. I was surprised at the quality of listening. I preferred recording on the magneto (Revox B77, tape PEM 468 19cm / s). It was a kind of analog oversampling. I also like to record the output of dac on my Nakamichi 482 and especially my vinyls too!
This is a kind of afterglow that is also true for video (the time of color and brightness change by the lamp, retinal persistence are natural filters and induce a natural interpolation.).

Thanks!

Real interested in my next toy for fabulous Digital playback around the home. Music servers only..

Looks like next winter for building something, summer activities stacking up..

Curious about the marsh suggestion with the Benchmark.. I have a Essence STX sound card, not sure how how higher bit rate files get treated compared to the Benchmark..

🙂
 
I'm sure my set up is a far cry from the best but I've been pretty happy going through a California Audio Labs Sigma II tube dac with an upgrade of black gate resistors. Still looking for a better quality transport. As a stand alone the best I've had has been a Sony 595 super cd multi disk player. With SACD's this lil cheapo is damn near amazing.
 
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Dunno. I leave the 7510 on all the time anyway and it does not disappoint me. For what I spent on it was a bargain and giver of much pleasure. I would have to spend 4 times as much or mod it a lot to gain anything significant. Which all equals satisfaction.
 
Leaving the Beresford on all the time is most likely the right move - it would be interesting to power it down and then leave it off for varying lengths of time, to see what variations might occur. The dependence, for at least early digital, to require very long warmup times was something that struck me decades ago.

Also, the TC-7510 is not as robust against external factors as it could be, the variation depending upon what transport, etc, was running indicates that - but for the money one can't expect perfection ... 😉.
 
Sorry but if bits ain't bits what are there and what is digital then, this statement is one of the most stupid I have heard uttered and guess what, its only on audio sites....
And before anyone chimes in about digital being ultimately analogue, it still does not change the fact that the end result of any digital transmission is a set of data consisting on 0s or 1s, there are no 0.5s or 0.25s 1.25s etc.................
 
Yes, totally for me. Actually, I was looking for the qualities of analogue without the issues of vinyl and without the issues usually associated with digital.

So what I remembered from analogue and vinyl had a big hand in orienting my digital rig's sound.

However, my digital rig, especially with DSD128 and above (even if the source is Redbook) totally blows my vinyl setup (a crudely modified Technics SL-1800) away.

And if I want to listen to Quad-DSD, I can do that too except I must use Win (sigh) as on Mac I can only do DSD128 through DoP.

To get to this level of quality where we both sit and go 'Woah!' at the same time on a track we know very well needed a lot of work, including working on my own USB cable despite the naysayers. In fact the last three wows we had were precisely because I swapped in my DIY USB cable (design inspired by LightHarmonic and iFi Gemini).

Of course system-synergy is important, but that USB cable cable is the epitome, although I think it could be better and shorter.

I worked on room diagnosis and DIY acoustic panels and bass traps first with REW, then did my ethernet CAT5 braided speaker cables, then did my own power cable for the amp based on a Chris VenHaus design, not expecting any result here -> blown away by better bass extension (without any EE degree, Gregg is going to scold me). It is only after this that I was sufficiently motivated to dabble in USB cable building.

I also had to build my own bookshelf speaker stands and work on their isolation as previously, the wooden floor would vibrate with sound.

I chose Audirvana+ as my audiophile player, but have had great results with HQ Player (even better) and BugHead. On Win, I have Foobar2000 set up to play Quad-DSD.

My DAC is an iFi iDSD Nano running the Micro's 4.06 Firmware (probably a one-off shared firmware code among these devices, don't try this any other way or you risk bricking something).

I couldn't built interconnects properly so I left these for now until I get some good RCA jacks.

I sometimes use a RAMdisk for the program file, sometimes also for the tracks and set the display to turn off after a minute.

The DAC is used as much as possible on its internal battery, and feeds into a Panasonic SA-HE100, with the DSP defeated when I listen to DSD and vinyl.

This is until I get my Simple SE Tube amp based on George's design repaired if he's available to help me out soon and which should bring this all to a whole new level.

The speakers are Totem Mites.

Can it all be better? Yes, of course, and I know how too.

😛
 
Ol' reliable marce pipes up, 😛 ... before your knickers tighten to the point of strangling the family jewels, it would do you well to remember where I'm coming from - it's all about how well the 'proper' analogue bits, 😉, get to do their job while in the neighbourhood of the digital, power supply and other "non-perfect" electricals. Once one gets over the fantasy that they can have no impact, then one can start learning something ... 😉
 
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