Have you discovered a digital source, that satisfies you, as much as your Turntable?

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I find all digital sources, except for a lot of MP3s that are over-compressed, to be more satisfying than my old Sonographe turntable. Turntables are a lot of bother. Soon, I'll have a 24/192K converter on a new PC, and plan to digitize all my old records.

Well, the good ones, anyway.

This probably means I need to get a new phono cartridge. And find my old cartridge alignment tools. I haven't used those in a long, long time. Bet they're lost. That's a lot of bother, too.
 
#263
Octavia said:
I've had the pleasure of spending the last month with some classically trained and extremely talented musicians, pianist, cello, harp, and vocalist. What really impressed me every day was how wonderful they all were at sharing their wide ranging expertise on classical music. Yes they enjoyed the fact I have a couple of pretty good sounding systems but never once did anyone mention how much they preferred the turntable , versus CD, versus whatever the upgraded iPod was putting out. The main thing was that any of them could deliver enough of the music experience to be thoroughly enjoyed.
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Musician's Brains are organized differently than "the rest of us". They don't need a high resolution system because they play (vs "hear") the notes in their heads; we are burdened by the need to listen.

[I have also known musicians who can't add 2 + 2, but again, pretty much by definition, a musician's brain is exemplary at math].

I have met a very few musicians who demand an accurate playback system, but they are rare. There is even a saying in HiFi ... "musicians have the worst systems".

When you can please both camps ... critical listeners and musicians ... you really have a system of great value and performance.
 
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McLanz use words for analog records - "like You are there..."
or something
I recently experience this with Neumann DST cartridge at EMT930st gramo with original EMT arm and inside RIAA unit. And maybe earlier with DECCA London red gold cartridge?
It is very hard and un-lightly to have with digital.
But this feeling i have with DST brings to me new light and motivation to set up some new gramo sys, and a bit questioning why I sold my EMT 930st base? 🙂
he he
Fortunately Lenco base is waiting to be used and some old Thorens TP14 old arm
with ortophon adapter SME to EMT headshell pins... 🙂
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Just to say that recently I am using TDA1540D dual mono 14bit from 44.1KHz up to 192KHz max. And newer Sabre ESS ES9018. Mac mini is source. Decibel player, Usb Amanero interface. (I designed booth dacs).
And I have of course made other dacs with different chips TDA1543, PCM56, WM8740,
all without copy other designs...
The dacs does not have digital harshness or these very annoying sound signatures most-nomatter-how-expensive have.
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But somehow I just need the presence of gramophone in the sys
even if it is just one record a week listened...
Like some of the control element i dont know?
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Other sys just for the info was modular and exchangeable Alnico-paper based with next driver units
RCA LC1a, Westrex 2080E, WE2390A horn drivers, Iskra 14in EZ1605, Lowther (First model) P6M, Altec 16in 420A Biflex...
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The amp was mostly present is Quad II (KT66 exchanged to KT88 same Io set with higher value of Rk...)
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For now no preamp, It should be, but I didn't catch the time to design and built...
LDR passive attenuator and for the option WE step up 1:8 32750-G model
which I am using also as MC step-up sometimes... 🙂
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I dont have the space and money to order LP I would like to have... And I have just pretty modest collection of about few hundreds of LPs
But if the physical space will be not an issue, and copynd and download will not be possibile, almost everybody will be turn to LPs or back to the live radio broadcast?
Maybe I am wrong - but when I asked a friend who owns the impressive collection of 6000-7000 original and rear published CD items, How come that You don't have gramophone in Your system?
He answered:
"Because I will go mad, try to order and find thousands of LP records I like..."
🙂
 
#268
analog_sa said:
With dacs relying on an off the shelf PLL receiver this is a guaranteed route to a dead end.
Or maybe you just have a subjective preference for high jitter sound.
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Hi and thanks for the valuable advice.
Actually i do not have a clue if my dacs rely on common PLL receivers.
Then what would be the more promising way to get music out of a pc ? 🙄
because i am sure of just one thing ... i will use the pc from now on to play music. So my only goal is to improve the sound out of it.
From what i heard the best interface have a very good sound.
Are you using a pc ? how is it connected ?
Thanks again, gino
 
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abraxalito said:
Post 230.
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Not really pertinent to the conversation, but your style in confrontational and you would rather score points with word games and cryptic responses than actually move the conversation forward. As a result 3 or 4 pages get wasted in to and fro when one carefully considered reply from yourself would prevent all that. I should have ignored your baiting but hoped I might learn something new. So fart still clearly have not deciphered your riddle.
 
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billshurv said:
Not really pertinent to the conversation
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Curious - if my style isn't relevant to the conversation, why introduce a comment about it, gratis?

, but your style in confrontational and you would rather score points with word games and cryptic responses than actually move the conversation forward.
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Example please of me 'scoring points with word games'? It would be nice to consider something specific rather than respond to generalized hand-waving.
 
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To answer the original question - not precisely. Better on some parameters and worse on others. Depends on the pressing, afterwork during digitprocess and so on. They are never the same but I enjoy both depending on mode.

Regards
 
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ginetto61 said:
Analog is always musical. Digital often is not.
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I have not always found analog to be musical, sometimes I have found it to be 'flat'.

The best source I have experienced is my YBA CD player. I don't know much about what makes it tick, YBA is very secretive about it. But it's only able to reach this level when playing Chesky recording discs - most other discs are crap in comparison and against those my analog FM tuner does better.
 
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Bigun said:
I have not always found analog to be musical, sometimes I have found it to be 'flat'.

The best source I have experienced is my YBA CD player. I don't know much about what makes it tick, YBA is very secretive about it. But it's only able to reach this level when playing Chesky recording discs - most other discs are crap in comparison and against those my analog FM tuner does better.
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Yes, CD's can be very enjoyable on the right playerwith the right parts. My Shigaclone MKII is way more enjoyable than anything I ever owned CD wise.
It is addictive for small money even if one adds all the bells and whissles...

Regards
 
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Bigun said:
I have not always found analog to be musical, sometimes I have found it to be 'flat'. The best source I have experienced is my YBA CD player. I don't know much about what makes it tick, YBA is very secretive about it. But it's only able to reach this level when playing Chesky recording discs - most other discs are crap in comparison and against those my analog FM tuner does better.
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Hi and thanks for the advice. I wonder if the YBA dacs have the same sound. I guess they are quite expensive by the way. But i read great things of the brand, both analog and digital.
If i remember well you wanted to add a digital in to your player ?
have you succeeded ? which dac chip is inside ?
Thanks and regards, gino
 
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