Good supply for preamp, Comments?

[grataku]

Back to neutral corners, please. I don't want to have to break out my aerosol can of mod spray.

What you need around here is a six pack of whoop ***.

By the way, I hadn't notice you made it up there (M), congratulations!

 

[grataku]

Just my way of getting even with Jam.

Cheers,

and I thought you were doing it because you really, really liked me!

 

[SY]

By the way, I hadn't notice you made it up there (M), congratulations!

Whether that's really "up" is a matter of some debate but thanks.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

and I thought you were doing it because you really, really liked me!

But of course, I do, mon cher ami...

Nothing mutually exclusive there...shall we get started on the real work?

Cheers,

 

[Peter Daniel]

Millwood,

Just for you I dug out this gem of a thread, because I know you will enjoy reading it all about the Challenge, the topic you already become so excited about http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7200

 

[thylantyr]

I didn't know this forum edits posts.
cutting our posts and moving it
to another ancient thread -- lol

I see how it is - lol

 

[Peter Daniel]

This forum usually doesn't edit posts. We only split threads, if they drift away too far from the main subject.

 

[jan.didden]

What is TEX-X?

It's Aleph X, Texan style.

You mean it comes with a saddle bag?

Jan Didden

 

[millwood]

Peter, i was only excited to help you make a buck or two since selling $5K chip amps don't seem that easy.

Or well, I forgot that we are dealing with people who make big claims but have little guts to show for.

 

[jan.didden]

Peter, i was only excited to help you make a buck or two since selling $5K chip amps don't seem that easy.

Or well, I forgot that we are dealing with people who make big claims but have little guts to show for.

millwood,

Could you pls explain how and what this last scentence contributes to the advancement of audio? I thought you agreed to a different style after that prolonged millwood-daniel flap where the moderators had to step in?

Jan Didden

 

[SY]

Counterproductive, too. Millwood, you have a position for which I have not a small amount of sympathy. It's a strong argument with all evidence and logic on its side. And yet, you undermine it badly by not sticking to the facts and taking cheap personal shots.

You're making ME look bad here. Not to mention fraying some of the forum rules.

 

[millwood]

millwood,

Could you pls explain how and what this last scentence contributes to the advancement of audio?

sure. I am not a believer of anything until it is proven in an objective way. and in my view, a lot of efforts and resources are spent on "tweaking" that for the most part remain unproven. Things like resistor sounds, cap sound, etc.

If we can prove or disprove that those tweaks make a audible difference, we can then focus our efforts on the real issues of audio and presummably advance our collective understanding at a faster path without being distracted by snake oil salesmen.

Someone pointed this out a while ago and I think it is worth repeating now: unlike other fields that have seen vast advances, audio pretty much remained unchanged for the last twenty or thirty years. and in my view, the proliferation of snake oil has a lot to do with that.

 

[millwood]

taking cheap personal shots.

I guess that's the only way to defend myself against personal shots.

your point well taken.

 

[SY]

If we can prove or disprove that those tweaks make a audible difference

It can't be disproved. Give up on that idea. If something looks ridiculous and it's offered without evidence, it can be safely ignored until such time as evidence is forthcoming. Note the word "ignored."

audio pretty much remained unchanged for the last twenty or thirty years. and in my view, the proliferation of snake oil has a lot to do with that.

Look at the bright side. If true, that gives you a nice, big, fertile, and uncrowded field to work in.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

audio pretty much remained unchanged for the last twenty or thirty years.

That's simply not true.

Better active and passive compononents are released all the time.

To take but a simple example: if you look at the ESR figures of electrolytic caps you'll notice a marked improved over what was common in the mid-seventies.

Cheers,

 

[jan.didden]

sure. I am not a believer of anything until it is proven in an objective way. and in my view, a lot of efforts and resources are spent on "tweaking" that for the most part remain unproven. Things like resistor sounds, cap sound, etc.

If we can prove or disprove that those tweaks make a audible difference, we can then focus our efforts on the real issues of audio and presummably advance our collective understanding at a faster path without being distracted by snake oil salesmen.

Someone pointed this out a while ago and I think it is worth repeating now: unlike other fields that have seen vast advances, audio pretty much remained unchanged for the last twenty or thirty years. and in my view, the proliferation of snake oil has a lot to do with that.

I fully agree to the above. However, I note you didn't reply to my question, although you give that impression.

As SY noted above, you detract a lot from your credibility with those personal attacks. The fact that someone attacks you personal (or that you perceive it this way) doesn't mean you absolutely 100% have to retaliate in kind, now, does it? Don't you understand that your own way of addressing people provokes these kind of responses? If not, how come that it is always the same people who get involved in mud slinging?

Jan Didden

 

[millwood]

Look at the bright side. If true, that gives you a nice, big, fertile, and uncrowded field to work in.

as a hobby, you are probably right tho. I am NOT sure I am smart enough to make a dent there.

professionally, I would be crazy to even think about investing in audio, especially high-end audio.

 

[Peter Daniel]

What is TEX-X?


You mean it comes with a saddle bag?

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=35127#post35127

 

[SY]

I would be crazy to even think about investing in audio, especially high-end audio.

There's a reason I've spent my professional career in other areas

 

[grataku]

Someone pointed this out a while ago and I think it is worth repeating now: unlike other fields that have seen vast advances, audio pretty much remained unchanged for the last twenty or thirty years. and in my view, the proliferation of snake oil has a lot to do with that.

So UNTRUE. I don't know how old are you but I remember sneaking in hi end shops in the late 70s when I was a teen while other people where listening I remember some pretty crappy sound by today's high end standards.

There are only so many ways to connect a 3 pin device, so lots of people have been moving sideways forgetting about the improving the topology and focusing on questionable, empirical and often downright stupid quests.
LOTS of others have kept their head out of their a** and to them we owe audio as we know it today.