Go out for a walk and come back to find so many posts to answer! 🙂
Steve Eddy I can see your picture fine. What exactly is it?
dsavitsk - I still can't see yours either 'here' or from the direct links! 🙁
Shoog - sorry to disappoint but I am running XP.
Shoog 2 - If the buffer can get away with a much simpler PSU, then that would make it a very economical version of a buffered GC. I have built a few GC's for people but they all declined the buffered option due to the extra cost! I'll experiment with a more basic PSU. Are you suggesting not using any regulation at all?
As I had such good results from using the SMPS with the GC's, I could try it with the buffer. It could be the high PSRR that is the key to success when using SMPS!
Carlos - I'm still to sort out a problem with the ouput transistors over-heating but soon I will run a three-way comparison, snubberized regulated PSU, Pedja's dicrete regulated PSU and SMPS.
Steve Eddy I can see your picture fine. What exactly is it?
dsavitsk - I still can't see yours either 'here' or from the direct links! 🙁
Shoog - sorry to disappoint but I am running XP.

Shoog 2 - If the buffer can get away with a much simpler PSU, then that would make it a very economical version of a buffered GC. I have built a few GC's for people but they all declined the buffered option due to the extra cost! I'll experiment with a more basic PSU. Are you suggesting not using any regulation at all?
As I had such good results from using the SMPS with the GC's, I could try it with the buffer. It could be the high PSRR that is the key to success when using SMPS!
Carlos - I'm still to sort out a problem with the ouput transistors over-heating but soon I will run a three-way comparison, snubberized regulated PSU, Pedja's dicrete regulated PSU and SMPS.

Nuuk said:Steve Eddy I can see your picture fine. What exactly is it?
It is the first of my pictures. The joke is a lot less funny at this point, I'm afraid. It is an Elvis Presley lunchbox that was bought by a friend at Graceland. I used to have a phono stage in it, but for now it is a buffer.
Nuuk said:dsavitsk - I still can't see yours either 'here' or from the direct links! 🙁
See if you can get to my site (http://ecp.cc). If not, I would guess that you either have a firewall or a DNS issue. To see which, try going to http://www.ecpsoftware.com. It uses the same DNS server and runs on the same web server. If you are able to see it, you have a firewall problem. If you are not, you probably have a DNS problem.
Nuuk said:Shoog - sorry to disappoint but I am running XP.![]()
Linux wants to be free. Try http://www.debian.org/ or http://www.gentoo.org/
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My buffer is running with just 2200uf per rail. There is a slight amount of hum, but I don't think its the buffer. The buffer was built up to replace a valve buffer and I didn't take especial care in adding it on. It on my computer amp now, which run very sensitive car drivers. Even if you had to go to 4700uf at 20V they still wouldn't be very big.
Regulation comes with some sonic costs. In the case of the Gainclone this is a plus, in most other cases I think its a minus. My gut feeling is avoid regulation unless its got proven benefits, or is absolutely neccisary. "Good" regulators can cost more than the amp to build. This is because they are effectively drain controlled amplifiers - but they have to be faster than the amp they are supplying
Shoog
Regulation comes with some sonic costs. In the case of the Gainclone this is a plus, in most other cases I think its a minus. My gut feeling is avoid regulation unless its got proven benefits, or is absolutely neccisary. "Good" regulators can cost more than the amp to build. This is because they are effectively drain controlled amplifiers - but they have to be faster than the amp they are supplying
Shoog
See if you can get to my site (http://ecp.cc). If not, I would guess that you either have a firewall or a DNS issue. To see which, try going to http://www.ecpsoftware.com. It uses the same DNS server and runs on the same web server. If you are able to see it, you have a firewall problem. If you are not, you probably have a DNS problem.
No I can't get to any of those but this is the first time that I have had any problems. I'm using the latest version of Zone Alarm.
Nuuk said:
No I can't get to any of those but this is the first time that I have had any problems. I'm using the latest version of Zone Alarm.
Not sure what to tell you. You might try disabling zonealarm for a moment to see if it is the culprit. I've not heard of anyone else having a problem seeing my server, and nothing has changed in a while.
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Here are the rest:
se
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
se
Thanks Steve, I can see all four now! 😉
And guess what? - I can see the others as well! I haven't made any changes to my settings so who knows what has happened! 🙂
And guess what? - I can see the others as well! I haven't made any changes to my settings so who knows what has happened! 🙂
Nuuk said:And guess what? - I can see the others as well! I haven't made any changes to my settings so who knows what has happened! 🙂
You were too snubberized.

Also happens to me, from time to time...😀
You were too snubberized.
You mean that I didn't have the capacitance to resist! 😀
Nuuk said:Thanks Steve, I can see all four now! 😉
And guess what? - I can see the others as well! I haven't made any changes to my settings so who knows what has happened! 🙂
Weird.
Oh well. Not every day you get to see a buffered passive preamp inside an Elvis Presley "television" lunch box, so it's worth a second look. 🙂
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dsavitsk said:
It is the first of my pictures. The joke is a lot less funny at this point, I'm afraid. It is an Elvis Presley lunchbox that was bought by a friend at Graceland. I used to have a phono stage in it, but for now it is a buffer.
See if you can get to my site (http://ecp.cc). If not, I would guess that you either have a firewall or a DNS issue. To see which, try going to http://www.ecpsoftware.com. It uses the same DNS server and runs on the same web server. If you are able to see it, you have a firewall problem. If you are not, you probably have a DNS problem.
Linux wants to be free. Try http://www.debian.org/ or http://www.gentoo.org/
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OR: try www.ubuntu.com 😀
Hi all,
On the subject of Linux. I know a lot of Linux wants to be free, unfortunately most of the free distros come without much software. Since i don't have broadband it no small issue to download a 10meg file. Suse Linux comes with over 1000 applications which cover just about everything. I am already running a free distro of Suse 9.2 but without the bundled software its not a lot of use.
Thanks anyway.
Shoog
On the subject of Linux. I know a lot of Linux wants to be free, unfortunately most of the free distros come without much software. Since i don't have broadband it no small issue to download a 10meg file. Suse Linux comes with over 1000 applications which cover just about everything. I am already running a free distro of Suse 9.2 but without the bundled software its not a lot of use.
Thanks anyway.
Shoog
OK!
Thanks to the info kindly posted by other members regarding bias adjustment of the buffer, I am now rid of the brightness of my setup 🙂
I tried 82 ohm instead of 120 ohm, and the sound got more neutral 🙂
Also, I have found it absolutely crucial to use a 10k pot in my setup, the sound really "beefs up" when compared to a 50k pot.
I have removed the 1uf caps that I added at the +/- inputs previously, as they are not needed with the higher bias setting.
Someone asked if there was buzz in any other ppl's buffers at any volume setting, and yes, I have a buzz when my volume is at the lowest setting. I had this problem with the 50k pot too.
Thanks to the info kindly posted by other members regarding bias adjustment of the buffer, I am now rid of the brightness of my setup 🙂
I tried 82 ohm instead of 120 ohm, and the sound got more neutral 🙂
Also, I have found it absolutely crucial to use a 10k pot in my setup, the sound really "beefs up" when compared to a 50k pot.
I have removed the 1uf caps that I added at the +/- inputs previously, as they are not needed with the higher bias setting.
Someone asked if there was buzz in any other ppl's buffers at any volume setting, and yes, I have a buzz when my volume is at the lowest setting. I had this problem with the 50k pot too.
I tried 82 ohm instead of 120 ohm, and the sound got more neutral
Interesting. So Shoog went up in value (for R3) and you went down!

Interesting, yes. I guess that it all depends on what the buffer is supposed to drive. My gc is non-inverted classic (as per http://www.geocities.com/rjm003.geo/rjmaudio/diy_gc.html ) but with hi-cap psu.
I guess that it all depends on what the buffer is supposed to drive.
I think that it may have more to do with choice of transistor and voltage rails!
What are you using Postpunk, and if you are there Shoog, what are you using? 🙂
Nuuk, I use BC547 with 16v rails.
I just remembered; when I had those 1uf caps at the +/- inputs I didn't have problems with buzz at lowest volume setting. I dunno why. Seems strange?
I just remembered; when I had those 1uf caps at the +/- inputs I didn't have problems with buzz at lowest volume setting. I dunno why. Seems strange?
postpunk said:Also, I have found it absolutely crucial to use a 10k pot in my setup, the sound really "beefs up" when compared to a 50k pot.
Naturally.
Nuuk said:Interesting. So Shoog went up in value (for R3) and you went down!![]()
That may depend on the input impedance of the next stage (the power amp), the transistor choice and the PSU voltage.
Who said it was easy?😀
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