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Funny how you use practically the same vocabulary to describe effects on an engine as is used to describe the effects of snake oil on audio systems.

Should be easy enough to get objective numbers like fuel consumption, acceleration, power and torque curves for a car to avoid having to use meaningless phrases like 'sweeter top end'.

Sure but not really relevant. The car feels smoother and more powerful, and Max's "invention" is all about the feels. If the car feels faster or the amp sounds better or the wine tastes better, who cares about measurements or objective reality?
 
Sure but not really relevant. The car feels smoother and more powerful, and Max's "invention" is all about the feels. If the car feels faster or the amp sounds better or the wine tastes better, who cares about measurements or objective reality?

Cars with OBD2 ports generally allow you to obtain lots of information. Pity the cars I am using don’t have these. In the US cars after 1996 seem to be required to have this port, in Europe, after 2001.
 
Can I be boring and remind thread dwellers that this site is called DIYaudio not DIYautos? Or should I try DIYbaking or DIYfishing for discussion on audio snake oil?

While I agree that threadjacking a thread on snake oil products for audio to talk about autos is a bit odd. I'll make a new thread focusing on cars then hey?

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Sure but not really relevant. The car feels smoother and more powerful, and Max's "invention" is all about the feels. If the car feels faster or the amp sounds better or the wine tastes better, who cares about measurements or objective reality?

I do because if you can feel it, hear it or taste it you can measure it.

If you measure no difference it is likely expectation bias.
 
Cars are like aircraft, handling quality cannot be defined, but can be associated through various measurements. The military had a spec for aircraft handling qualities which would get you in the ball park, but final evaluation was based on human ratings on how easy it was to accomplish certain tasks.
 
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