Has anyone ever tried cryo treating their food? 😉 Take a steak on a camping trip and not only do you not need ice in the cooler with it, you can’t eat it for about 4 days. And that’s no snake oil.
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As in burn-in the vacuum tube during normal use. Cryo-treating has been applied to tubes by those who believe in sound improvement by doing so. It's also been applied to audio cables as well, by the believers.
But they disagree. Some posted claims on audio forums of significant improvement. Not unlike what you see on this forum. 
I had someone in high school claim that if you tapped a 3 1/2" disk on your hand, the data would fall off.
His justification was if you pick up screws with a horseshoe magnet and hit it, the screws fall off...
His justification was if you pick up screws with a horseshoe magnet and hit it, the screws fall off...
Neil DeGrasse Tyson when discussing poor human perceptions...."You know those books with those pictures of squiggly lines, optical illusions, your brain can't figure it out, they should be renamed "brain failures"".
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The funny thing is that cryo treatment could cause wire to become brittle, much like too much heat-treating or too much time(aging) after annealling and drawing.
And Cal, when it's a warm hunting season, folks hereabouts put any of their supplies that can take it in the local meat locker.
Fourty below works pretty well in the fall.
A local dairy man(cow-boy?) took liquid nitrogen in a large thermos on a summer fishing trip, he could flash freeze the fish and recharge the cooler at the same time!
Four days, don't know if he could have made it a week.
And Cal, when it's a warm hunting season, folks hereabouts put any of their supplies that can take it in the local meat locker.
Fourty below works pretty well in the fall.
A local dairy man(cow-boy?) took liquid nitrogen in a large thermos on a summer fishing trip, he could flash freeze the fish and recharge the cooler at the same time!
Four days, don't know if he could have made it a week.
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But they disagree. Some posted claims on audio forums of significant improvement. Not unlike what you see on this forum.
That is something I never give credibility to.... "claims" from "audiophiles".
Call me cynical, jaded, an old codger, whatever.... I got so tired of hearing "claims". 🙄
What about claims from so called "trained" listener?
The same goes.
There's too many variables among different people's hearing ability, plus toss in individual preferences and some biases.
The bottom line is.... I gotta hear it MYself... it has to please ME...
My completely-digital home audio system, as well as my 20-year-old, synthetically-oiled car, agree. 🙂
Forty below is mighty cold for sure but not quite at the same level as cryo treating. Who knows, it might take a week to thaw.
As far as wire goes, a metallurgist friend of mine once said that any value treating might have is instantly lost once you uncoil it.
We used it in our infrared cameras. We made sure we wore welding gloves and full face shields when filling them.
Hi Cal,
I'll believe that! Never mind the question of returning the wire to room temperatures or higher. How long would the cryo-treatment benefits last? That's assuming the object wasn't reshaped in any way.
"Just trust your ears."
Both of which are connected to your brain - which half the time is playing tricks on you, just because it can. Your brain is a little stinker.
Both of which are connected to your brain - which half the time is playing tricks on you, just because it can. Your brain is a little stinker.
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That's an interesting one. There is a tiny grain of reality buried deep in there under the nonsense. It's actually true that severe vibration can demagnetize some types of permanent magnet!
Along those lines: if you hold a steel rod pointing north-south, and tap one end repeatedly with a hammer, the rod turns into a weak permanent magnet. (It will deflect a compass needle if you bring it close, etc.)
This happens because the hammer blows jostle loose some of the magnetic domains in the steel, allowing them to align with the weak magnetic field of the earth. Not snake oil, this actually works, though the resulting permanent magnet is so weak as to be useless for anything.
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