500 magnets for the pair? if the magnets are 50mm x 12mm, wouldnt 250 (per side) cover an area of 15,000 square centimeters? im not sure how you are coming up with 500 magnets. did you mean 50?
OK, 50mm = 5.0cm and 12mm = 1.2cm. So 5.0cm * 1.2cm = 6.0cm^2. Now 6.0cm^2. * 250 = 1500cm^2. This is 1.0m by 15cm or approximately 40" by 6" give or take.
Sounds like it's in the ballpark.
Cheers,
Graeme
Sounds like it's in the ballpark.
Cheers,
Graeme
Thank you ql, as you showed you divide by 100 not 10, as I have built the speakers in question I should know how many magnets I used!!! Thanking you again. Regards Anthony.
Full Range Planar by JamesBos
Hi to all, I'm a newbie. I hope that I'm posting this correctly. Seems
like it's a little different from other forums I've visited. JamesBos,
I am interested in the Full range planar that is very simple to
build. Can you tell me if the magnets are placed vertically or
horizontally on the perforated metal sheet? Is there a place to
see the pictures you are talking about? I noticed that you gave
instructions to go to tubes. Is that You Tube? I cannot e-mail you
because I'm a newbie. It's great that the moderators run a tight
ship and protect us. I will await your post and happiness always,
Klipschorn dude
Hi to all, I'm a newbie. I hope that I'm posting this correctly. Seems
like it's a little different from other forums I've visited. JamesBos,
I am interested in the Full range planar that is very simple to
build. Can you tell me if the magnets are placed vertically or
horizontally on the perforated metal sheet? Is there a place to
see the pictures you are talking about? I noticed that you gave
instructions to go to tubes. Is that You Tube? I cannot e-mail you
because I'm a newbie. It's great that the moderators run a tight
ship and protect us. I will await your post and happiness always,
Klipschorn dude

Klipschorn dude, Welcome to diyAudio 😀 😀
try this link and look up post # 1458
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1123941#post1123941
That should give you an idea of what's going on -

try this link and look up post # 1458
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1123941#post1123941
That should give you an idea of what's going on -

Hi, welcome, you can put the magnets on horizontal or vertical, I have tried both. It is easier to put them on vertically as the aluminium tape is easier to put on the membrane, not so many turns which is the hardest bit. This is the place you can easily rip the thin aluminium tape. If you do you have to start again. Hard on patience and the back! The tubes in question are on this forum one of the many sub sections, explore and learn! They are worth the effort and are easy to maintain . The dearest part are the magnets but they last for many years. The sound is very open and clean no boom or tizz. I have got a pair of 4' x 2' with neos hanging from the ceiling very light and thin about 3".Very easy to place in the room. I have built a pair 2' x 2' full range even easier to hang off the ceiling and out of the way.
Feel free to ask any questions and send email if so inclined.
Happy new year Anthony.
Feel free to ask any questions and send email if so inclined.
Happy new year Anthony.
You can order it from CPC CO UK it is the tape used for burglar alarms security tape No. SR00001 it comes in a 9 metre roll. Regards Anthony.
Planar Speaker
Hello C2CThomas. Thanks for the info on the pics.
I'm looking into building the planar speaker that JamesBos was
talking about. Sure are some nice friendly folks on this forum.
Happiness always,
Klipschorn dude😀
Hello C2CThomas. Thanks for the info on the pics.
I'm looking into building the planar speaker that JamesBos was
talking about. Sure are some nice friendly folks on this forum.
Happiness always,
Klipschorn dude😀
Planar Speaker
Thanks JamesBos. I will see if I have enough magnets on hand
already. Like you said, that's the most expensive part. Thanks for
telling me what "tubes" was. I most definitely will explore this site.
Nice people live here.😀
Klipschorn dude
Thanks JamesBos. I will see if I have enough magnets on hand
already. Like you said, that's the most expensive part. Thanks for
telling me what "tubes" was. I most definitely will explore this site.
Nice people live here.😀
Klipschorn dude
Hi Wayne
If you go to post 25 on the previous page then look at post 1458,1460,1461 this will give you the general idea to build a full range planar, using ferrites or neos. Regards Anthony.
If you go to post 25 on the previous page then look at post 1458,1460,1461 this will give you the general idea to build a full range planar, using ferrites or neos. Regards Anthony.
anybody has tried a small planar ? for only the mids and high from 1k and up ?
everybody is making fullrange but i like to keep the whole systemm small, also the panel cant be verry width because of beaming the high frequency. cant fin it anywhere on the site and i would really like to start with this kind of small project, before buying 200 neo's
everybody is making fullrange but i like to keep the whole systemm small, also the panel cant be verry width because of beaming the high frequency. cant fin it anywhere on the site and i would really like to start with this kind of small project, before buying 200 neo's
Are all the poles facing the same direction on these magnets or are they flipped in rows? Also, what kind of adhesive are you using to glue those fellas down? I sure would hate to get my fingers pinched by 250 large grade 45 NDs!
Hi Corvus,
The magnets are in alternate rows N S N S etc, and you don't have to glue them down as the perforated steel sheet holds the magnets down as they are quite powerful. The magnets I use are 50mm x 12.7mm x 3mm. These are easier to control. Bigger magnets would be more dangerous. I have trapped my fingers a few times! Nasty blood blisters! These neos are very powerful and can only be separated by sliding. So care and patience is the order of the day.
Regards Anthony.
The magnets are in alternate rows N S N S etc, and you don't have to glue them down as the perforated steel sheet holds the magnets down as they are quite powerful. The magnets I use are 50mm x 12.7mm x 3mm. These are easier to control. Bigger magnets would be more dangerous. I have trapped my fingers a few times! Nasty blood blisters! These neos are very powerful and can only be separated by sliding. So care and patience is the order of the day.
Regards Anthony.
Have just built my first push pull full range planar size 40 x 60mm, am very happy with it it is as loud as my 4' x 2' full range planar. I am going to build one using neos same size. The ferrite one weighs in at 14 kilos. The neo one will be a lot lighter and more sensitive. I shall concentrate on the push pull design for all my future constructions. This is the way to go.🙂
James ,
I'm getting ready to do a push pull bass unit and I do plan on using Bars as opposed to perf sheets as you did. Still curious to see what you have come up with on yours, I cannot tell from the previous pics posted .
Could you post some pics on the finished unit ...
regards,
I'm getting ready to do a push pull bass unit and I do plan on using Bars as opposed to perf sheets as you did. Still curious to see what you have come up with on yours, I cannot tell from the previous pics posted .
Could you post some pics on the finished unit ...
regards,
James ,
I'm getting ready to do a push pull bass unit
regards,
hey wayne
just a small note
remember to have front and back magnet with N to N towards each other, and S to S
if you choose front/back N to S, then you will get sidewards movement instead
one advantage is that front and back magnets wont attrackt each other, thus wont clash together
though I doubt its simple
magnets do strange things
and the field may not behave as intended
before buying all those expencive magnets, I suggest to build a small model, to see how it behaves
and its very tricky to assemble
you can only handle one magnet at a time
do not try to make larger sections
those magnets are impossible to control in multiples
I use 2 diaphragms so you can put the magnets on either side of the perforated sheet N to S so there is no clashing of magnets or any danger of the magnets jumping about. This works fine as I said before the 600 x 400 mm push pull full range planar is as loud as my 4' x 2' creation in red. I'm having difficulty loading my pictures on this site. I will put the picture of my new p/p frp on another site well my Grandson will as he is the computer expert.😀
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