Hi Brianco
WoW this is quite a change from FSSA (100W class AB) to F5-USSA (<=25W class A). The latter is only an F5 with different parts and value but using USSA philosophy and of course using the 2SK1530/2SJ201. It was discussed in a now closed forum...It is somehow similar to EUVL design I believe. For the pcb I have simply used an F5 clone pcb from EBay and put my parts in.
Fab
P.S. I have found where I put the schematics on this forum:
Virtual Audition of Very Simple Quasi MOSFET Amp
Thanks Fab,
Apologies for delay but been unwell again - seems I may need a pacemaker ac.to Docs.
I have now it seems added dyslexia to my worries (my now deleted order contradictions!)
I have removed my name from the list and will grateful if you will order for me according to your advice.
Low Impedance speakers c. 88/89Db sensitivity. I would like a USSA for these, I have x2 sets boards from last round, but no Sanken devices of any kind (or Tosh drivers). SO I will be grateful if youcan get me two sets as appropriate for your advised USSA use.
I have all of your recommended front end devices - BCs/2SK/2SJ/ etc - and for outputs have about 60pairs of matched 2SK1530/2SJ201 - ditto - 2SC5200/2SA1943. I also have matched ALF20/20 pairs, I have NO Tosh 313 pairs.
I do not have to use these outputs as I can order whatever you recommend.
I also have a pair of Maggies which require a decent power amp. For these I suspect a FSSA is the best bet. I also want to build an FSSA for a great friend, so would like your advice on this: preferably different models so that I get the choice for myself when tested!!!
Hope that this makes sense.
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and 1 set ussa 3b+ Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa and 1 set ussa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Analogico - 2 sets USSA3/5
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Note: assume I do not have USSA pcb at this moment.
@Brianco: please clarify if you require FSSA pcb.
And for the FSSA only related list:
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and 1 set ussa 3b+ Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa and 1 set ussa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
That makes 24 pcbs. I can buy 30 pcbs to allow a few late inquiries. That should give probably less than 10$ CAD per pcb excluding shipping. Final Price to be confirmed.
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : <=20$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa and 1 set ussa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Analogico - 2 sets USSA3/5
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Note: assume I do not have USSA pcb at this moment.
@Brianco: please clarify if you require FSSA pcb.
And for the FSSA only related list:
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and 1 set ussa 3b+ Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa and 1 set ussa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
That makes 24 pcbs. I can buy 30 pcbs to allow a few late inquiries. That should give probably less than 10$ CAD per pcb excluding shipping. Final Price to be confirmed.
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : <=20$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Brianco I wish all the best for your health.
Stay strong and look after yourself.
Regards
Harry
Stay strong and look after yourself.
Regards
Harry
HiI've sent you the money via Paypal a few seconds ago. I already had your adress from the previous USSA boards.
Thanks but I have not determined the pcb final price yet...
Fab
If you mean FSSA with bipolar as output then the pcb is not suitable for that and would require an additional drive stage compared to mosfet output. Also additional temperature compensation and others things...Fssa bipolar possible if you can't do ussa?
Fab
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Thanks Fab,
Apologies for delay but been unwell again - seems I may need a pacemaker ac.to Docs.
I have now it seems added dyslexia to my worries (my now deleted order contradictions!)
I have removed my name from the list and will grateful if you will order for me according to your advice.
Low Impedance speakers c. 88/89Db sensitivity. I would like a USSA for these, I have x2 sets boards from last round, but no Sanken devices of any kind (or Tosh drivers). SO I will be grateful if youcan get me two sets as appropriate for your advised USSA use.
I have all of your recommended front end devices - BCs/2SK/2SJ/ etc - and for outputs have about 60pairs of matched 2SK1530/2SJ201 - ditto - 2SC5200/2SA1943. I also have matched ALF20/20 pairs, I have NO Tosh 313 pairs.
I do not have to use these outputs as I can order whatever you recommend.
I also have a pair of Maggies which require a decent power amp. For these I suspect a FSSA is the best bet. I also want to build an FSSA for a great friend, so would like your advice on this: preferably different models so that I get the choice for myself when tested!!!
Hope that this makes sense.
Hi Brianco
No problem take care of your health first.
No problems I will send you Sanken drivers since you have already bought the USSA5 pcb sets.
As for recommendations I would rather leave that to other members since I have no experience with the Maggies. For more difficult speakers FSSA is more recommended compared to USSA5. You can build FSSA1 and 2 but the latter requires Toshiba mosfet drivers. Only accepted output for FSSA is double die lateral mosfet -as your ALF20N20/20P20.
Let me know if you want FSSA pcb.
Fab
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Group buy list update
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Spind - 1 set FSSA
That makes 26 pcbs. I can buy 30 or 40 pcbs to allow a few late inquiries. That should give probably less than 10$ CAD per pcb excluding shipping. Final Price to be confirmed.
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : <=20$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
For USSA3/5 pcb inquiries please use the USSA5 pcb group buy thread otherwise it can be complicated for me to keep track of requests...
Fab
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Spind - 1 set FSSA
That makes 26 pcbs. I can buy 30 or 40 pcbs to allow a few late inquiries. That should give probably less than 10$ CAD per pcb excluding shipping. Final Price to be confirmed.
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : <=20$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
For USSA3/5 pcb inquiries please use the USSA5 pcb group buy thread otherwise it can be complicated for me to keep track of requests...
Fab
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Hi
Thanks but I have not determined the pcb final price yet...
Fab
If it's going to be less than 10CAD/Board take whats over as some sort of a tip 😱.
Thanks for the tip 😛
Final pcb price is 8$ each thus 16$ for a set. Price is in CAD.
Quality same as for USSA5 pcb:
2mm thickness
Gold immersion
70um copper
Black color (can be changed )
Fab
Final pcb price is 8$ each thus 16$ for a set. Price is in CAD.
Quality same as for USSA5 pcb:
2mm thickness
Gold immersion
70um copper
Black color (can be changed )
Fab
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Supposed one would power the frontend through an external power supply as mentioned before... How much current should it be able to deliver?
================Hi Brianco
No problem take care of your health first.
No problems I will send you Sanken drivers since you have already bought the USSA5 pcb sets
As for recommendations I would rather leave that to other members since I have no experience with the Maggies. For more difficult speakers FSSA is more recommended compared to USSA5. You can build FSSA1 and 2 but the latter requires Toshiba mosfet drivers. Only accepted output for FSSA is double die lateral mosfet -as your ALF20N20/20P20.
Let me know if you want FSSA pcb.
Fab
@Fab,
Many thanks indeed.
....I am adding my name to the FSSA list for x2 stereo sets of FSSA boards + all necessary Sunken devices for the x2 USSA and x2 FSSA options. That will keep me going for a while!
Really appreciate all you are doing for these amps. and builders
To All:
I would very much like to obtain a pair each of well matched Toshiba 2SJ313Y &
2SK2013Y. PLEASE PM if you can supply genuine devices. Many thanks.
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AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Spind - 1 set FSSA
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver)
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Spind - 1 set FSSA
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
Hi Fab,
Payment done, discard my mail now the price is confirmed
Many thanks for all this again
Claude
Payment done, discard my mail now the price is confirmed
Many thanks for all this again
Claude
Front stage is <60ma and input stage is <= 17ma , per board.Supposed one would power the frontend through an external power supply as mentioned before... How much current should it be able to deliver?
Fab
Group buy status
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken
16 sets thus 32 pcbs.
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : 16$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Fab
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sunken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken
16 sets thus 32 pcbs.
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : 16$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Fab
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AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken ?
Tomtest - 1 set FESA + Sanken ?
17 sets thus 34 pcbs?
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : 16$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Fab
I need more received payments to do the pcb ordering.🙄
Fab
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sanken
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken ?
Tomtest - 1 set FESA + Sanken ?
17 sets thus 34 pcbs?
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : 16$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Fab
I need more received payments to do the pcb ordering.🙄
Fab
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AnthonyA, if you wish to be in touch with someone, you PM them. Reporting a post just goes to the Moderators.
Group buy update
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken : paid ok
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sanken : paid ok
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken ?
Tomtest - 1 set FESA : paid ok
17 sets thus 34 pcbs?
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : 16$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Fab
I need more received payments to do the pcb ordering.🙄
Fab[/QUOTE]
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken : paid ok
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sanken : paid ok
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken ?
Tomtest - 1 set FESA : paid ok
17 sets thus 34 pcbs?
Shipping will be a fixed price this time because only small variation between countries by Airmail no tracking.
All prices in CAD$:
Pcb (2) : 16$
Packaging : 1$
Shipping : 14$
Sanken (4): 12$
Other parts (only special cases) by PM
Fab
I need more received payments to do the pcb ordering.🙄
Fab[/QUOTE]
Group buy update
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken : paid ok
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA : paid ok
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sanken : paid ok
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken ?
Tomtest - 1 set FESA : paid ok
Almost there for the payment of pcbs so I can order them.
I am well advanced in the build manual revision so I should be able to send it maybe tomorrow to those who have paid so far.
Fab
AnthonyA . 2 sets FSSA2 and Ntc, poly cap, sanken+ caddock
nfsgame - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Vunce - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Stretchneck - 3 sets fssa + 4 sets of Sanken : paid ok
ClaudeG - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
meanie - 1 set FSSA1 (toshiba driver) : paid ok
zman01 - 1 set FSSA : paid ok
touchdown - 1 set FSSA with Sanken : paid ok
Kalamin - 1 set FSSA with Sanken: paid ok
Spind - 1 set FSSA: paid ok
Brianco - x2 stereo FSSA sets + All Sanken
topicreader - 1 set FSSA + Sanken ?
Tomtest - 1 set FESA : paid ok
Almost there for the payment of pcbs so I can order them.
I am well advanced in the build manual revision so I should be able to send it maybe tomorrow to those who have paid so far.
Fab
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