Nice touch with the wood finish and surround complimentary colors! That baffle looks good too!
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Frugel-Horn Mk3
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Nice touch with the wood finish and surround complimentary colors! That baffle looks good too!
That's pretty cool. I've never heard of these, but FHmk3 are my first journey into DIYaudio projects.
Hi there,
You'll find that the MA CHP-70s are at the very least equivalent to the Holey Baskets and probably much better with the lower frequencies.
I've been listening to mine for 11 years now and am still very satisfied indeed.
Cheers
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Hi Dave,
They are the original CHP-70 drive units I bought them from Spectrum Audio in Germany, at the time the only place that stocked them in Europe. Wolfgang with whom I exchanged emails with was very helpful indeed. Until I listened to these I thought my Grado headphones were better than any loudspeaker.
I was wrong.
Cheers
They are the original CHP-70 drive units I bought them from Spectrum Audio in Germany, at the time the only place that stocked them in Europe. Wolfgang with whom I exchanged emails with was very helpful indeed. Until I listened to these I thought my Grado headphones were better than any loudspeaker.
I was wrong.
Cheers
If we need add subwoofer for frugal horn mk3, what are the good options for it..
can we use Tang Band W5-1138SMF or Tang Band W6-1139SIF based subwoofer in a compact cube enclosure. or in a stealth woofer box for frugal horns.
are there any stealth woofer box for frugal horns, with drivers other than 7" css ones ..
can we use Tang Band W5-1138SMF or Tang Band W6-1139SIF based subwoofer in a compact cube enclosure. or in a stealth woofer box for frugal horns.
are there any stealth woofer box for frugal horns, with drivers other than 7" css ones ..
We have only done such woofers with the SDX7. But there is no reason any other woofr that works in the available volume will work.
I’d hsve to dig out the drawings and figure out what that volume range is. An ML-TL will be limited to the height of the FH. SilverFlute we use in Tysen V2 nmight work.
Other shapes, perhaps, are not as easy to place, but aren’t fixed in place like the stealthWoofers are.
dave
I’d hsve to dig out the drawings and figure out what that volume range is. An ML-TL will be limited to the height of the FH. SilverFlute we use in Tysen V2 nmight work.
Other shapes, perhaps, are not as easy to place, but aren’t fixed in place like the stealthWoofers are.
dave
Hi sarathssca,
The Tang Band subwoofers that you listed both can be housed in compact cabinets. I once experimented with a bi-amp FAST with a W6-1139SF in a 15 liter BR box with an Alpair 7.3 in Dave's Mar-Ken enclosure on top, and recall that 110-150 Hz was a workable XO range with the gear we were using. The TB W6-1139SF is quite power hungry though.
Higher up might also work, but we ran out time to experiment. I think Dave prefers "woofers" vs subwoofer type drivers as woofers tend to have higher bandwidth making higher XO possible, and they usually have higher sensitivity vs subwoofers.
The Tang Band subwoofers that you listed both can be housed in compact cabinets. I once experimented with a bi-amp FAST with a W6-1139SF in a 15 liter BR box with an Alpair 7.3 in Dave's Mar-Ken enclosure on top, and recall that 110-150 Hz was a workable XO range with the gear we were using. The TB W6-1139SF is quite power hungry though.
Higher up might also work, but we ran out time to experiment. I think Dave prefers "woofers" vs subwoofer type drivers as woofers tend to have higher bandwidth making higher XO possible, and they usually have higher sensitivity vs subwoofers.
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How much power do they need compared to alpair 7.3 .. What amps did we used .. How is the sound of the combo and r there any better alternatives ..Hi sarathssca,
The Tang Band subwoofers that you listed both can be housed in compact cabinets. I once experimented with a bi-amp FAST with a W6-1139SF in a 15 liter BR box with an Alpair 7.3 in Dave's Mar-Ken enclosure on top, and recall that 110-150 Hz was a workable XO range with the gear we were using. The TB W6-1139SF is quite power hungry though.
Higher up might also work, but we ran out time to experiment. I think Dave prefers "woofers" vs subwoofer type drivers as woofers tend to have higher bandwidth making higher XO possible, and they usually have higher sensitivity vs subwoofers.
sarathssca,
IIRC we use a lower power Class D amp for the Alpair 7.3 and a 90 watt per channel Class D for the TB W6-1139, and it felt that a powerful amp would have helped. Nowadays watts are cheap and you can get decent Class D amps for little money. XO was digitally implemented.
The combo sounded good, but of course there are many alternatives... better will depend on what you are looking for.
From your earlier question it looks like you already have a FH3 and would like to get some additional low frequency performance by adding helper woofer/subwoofers?
IIRC we use a lower power Class D amp for the Alpair 7.3 and a 90 watt per channel Class D for the TB W6-1139, and it felt that a powerful amp would have helped. Nowadays watts are cheap and you can get decent Class D amps for little money. XO was digitally implemented.
The combo sounded good, but of course there are many alternatives... better will depend on what you are looking for.
From your earlier question it looks like you already have a FH3 and would like to get some additional low frequency performance by adding helper woofer/subwoofers?
My FH3 is pending for quite sometime, have alpair 7p and initial cutting of mdf panels r done for sometime .. Also planning for a simple DML panel speaker .. So thinking of a subwoofer which can help in both these cases (FH3 and DML panels) to get full sound including good low end also ..
Lotus – Double Mouth MBVR for Mark Audio CHR-70 or frugal horn mk 3 for Mark Audio 7 XXX
Hello folks,Does anyone have any experience or a clue in a comparison between the Frugel-Horn Mk3 for Mark Audio Series 7 and the Lotus – Double Mouth MBVR for Mark Audio CHR-70 by Wooden Design/ Scott Lindgren regarding to the LF performance? Thank you very much!
Cheers Steve
Dunno about Lotus but I built a Coniston and an FH3, both with original Pluvia 7. There is no doubt that the FH3 goes lower there. You get some very deep stuff with that. Unfortunately, the room is not great and doesn’t allow corner placement (sloping back wall!). Anyhow, with the Coniston out into the room you get a very nice crisp sound, deep stereo image and nice on classical with the wick up. But I admit I found the lack of depth compared to the FH3 a little lacking.
Cyril
Cyril
as far as i know get in touch with planet 10 hifi and you can get them off of Dave. what i want to know is a remake of the EL70’s never had a chance to buy them????????????How would they be without the curved back? How do I get the plans?
Hi, Cyril.
thx for your quick and detailed answer – well I think the Coniston is hard to compare with the FH 3 due to its internal volume. That was about the trend I had sensed. The Lotus BVR design by Scott has about 23 liters internal base volume – I’ve packed the plan times in the appendix.
Cheers Steve
thx for your quick and detailed answer – well I think the Coniston is hard to compare with the FH 3 due to its internal volume. That was about the trend I had sensed. The Lotus BVR design by Scott has about 23 liters internal base volume – I’ve packed the plan times in the appendix.
Cheers Steve
Steve,
Yes, hopefully that will give you more. If you were near Bristol, UK I would say borrow the Conistons and modify/experiment and you are free to take them if you like them. I don’t know if they are any good for EL70 though. But I see you might be in Germany. It is a fair bit if work to make such a speaker and finish it nicely in my view.
cyril
Yes, hopefully that will give you more. If you were near Bristol, UK I would say borrow the Conistons and modify/experiment and you are free to take them if you like them. I don’t know if they are any good for EL70 though. But I see you might be in Germany. It is a fair bit if work to make such a speaker and finish it nicely in my view.
cyril
Hi Cyril,
oh, I've seen that the attachment dosen't work- so this will fit:
http://www.frugal-horn.com/spawn-plans.html
to be found in "English Auto planset"
Have a nice weekend
Cheers Steve
oh, I've seen that the attachment dosen't work- so this will fit:
http://www.frugal-horn.com/spawn-plans.html
to be found in "English Auto planset"
Have a nice weekend
Cheers Steve