I'm not trying to renegotiate the Hawksford decision here. I'm trying to understand your "one or the other" assertion. As the other Scott observed "it's all part of the same reality".
OK, I'll do my best to give you a short answer here. However, as a fellow member, I ask that you allow it to be the last on this subject on this particular thread. Please do feel free to start one elsewhere on the subject if you wish -as noted though it has been done to death many times over the years (decades), and no wire thread that I've seen here ever ends well. Still, there's always a first time... This thread however is specifically about Frugel Horn Mk3 and it should not be diverted any further from that purpose. I hope you agree that that is fair.
The question more or less summarises the basic point. I realise it might seem unreasonable, but this is not actually 'my' assertion. In fact, it's not an assertion -I should be sorry to assert. The thing about EM, electrodynamics, Maxwell (call it what you like) in this context is that it doesn't have room for alternate methodological interpretation or variation built into it. It's inflexible in that sense. When you use it, you use it, and you have to analyse and interpret the results using electrodynamics / EM / Maxwell, not something else. That's why it's one or the other, not both together.
Back to FH3 now guys. 😉
Last edited:
Thank you Scott for so many good designs 😀
FH Lite are really amazing speakers, BIG sound from a diminutive box. Tomorrow I'll measure mine and post graphics (there was an old post but pictures has gone)
Victor
FH Lite are really amazing speakers, BIG sound from a diminutive box. Tomorrow I'll measure mine and post graphics (there was an old post but pictures has gone)
Victor
My pleasure, I'm just glad they give people good service. 🙂
Pictures are always welcome! If you can attach them to the forum rather than link, they'll never go away.
Pictures are always welcome! If you can attach them to the forum rather than link, they'll never go away.
+1FH Lite with Vifa TC9 are very nice loudspeakers, sweet sounding and non fatiguing.
Hello Everyone,
Dave: I purchased one of your flatpack Mk3 kits many years ago where you kindly shipped it to my German military APO address. Kit was built and I loved them!!! then our 4 year old nephew visited from the US who is rather inquisitive...poked his finger through both Fostex enabled speakers. The only children we have are furry and come on 4 legs...wife took over and I took said 4-legged for a walk. 🙂 I just replaced 'holy' versions with MAOB-7s, waiting on the UPS man. these speakers with my 300B amp, EML 520 tube, on paper around 14wpc'ish. I can replace them with my JJ and get a normal 9wpc.
Now that the upgrade bug has struck, I think it is time to add a subwoofer. I have been looking at hypex designs. Troels' design specifically since it was the first I found. Is there a better recommendation?
The room I listen in is almost a cube. 5m x 5m and 3.5m tall. Old German farmhouse, stone'ish walls, wood wainscoting, wood floors, big windows...i envision some kind of room treatment eventually.
Suggestions ideas?
Warm regards,
Erick
Dave: I purchased one of your flatpack Mk3 kits many years ago where you kindly shipped it to my German military APO address. Kit was built and I loved them!!! then our 4 year old nephew visited from the US who is rather inquisitive...poked his finger through both Fostex enabled speakers. The only children we have are furry and come on 4 legs...wife took over and I took said 4-legged for a walk. 🙂 I just replaced 'holy' versions with MAOB-7s, waiting on the UPS man. these speakers with my 300B amp, EML 520 tube, on paper around 14wpc'ish. I can replace them with my JJ and get a normal 9wpc.
Now that the upgrade bug has struck, I think it is time to add a subwoofer. I have been looking at hypex designs. Troels' design specifically since it was the first I found. Is there a better recommendation?
The room I listen in is almost a cube. 5m x 5m and 3.5m tall. Old German farmhouse, stone'ish walls, wood wainscoting, wood floors, big windows...i envision some kind of room treatment eventually.
Suggestions ideas?
Warm regards,
Erick
MAOB-7
Alpair 7 MAOP?
With FH3 you might look at the stealthWoofer approach, using a deflector behind the FH3 to both add bass and improve the FH3 horn mouth.
I have basic drawings but i have not found a new woofer that fits in them. I haven’t looked to hard yet. Could be from a couple 5s up to an 8”. Be nice if it was suitable for a short end-loaded ML-TL.

Turns out Chris took assembly pictures if you guys would like me to post them/
dave
For me, I am guessing any of the normal ones. FaitalPRO are made just south and ScanSpeak are just north.
MAOP7 Mark Audio - Yes
erick
MAOP7 Mark Audio - Yes
erick
Diatone PM610 clone (Diaclone) in FH3
This Diaclone is a 6,5" speaker with steel basket, big ferrite magnet, whizzerless paper cone and good sensitivity. There are several types, I have the cheapest, the one which looks closest to original Diatone. Around 100€, post included. This:
2 unidad davidlouis Audio 6.5 pulgadas DIATONE P610MK3 version 2019 | eBay
I know this speaker is too big for FH3, but try it anyway because I have no room for a FHXL. I like the sound, good treble (not agressive) detailed and enough bass.
It's amazing that a loudspeaker so different from the original can sound reasonably good. FH3 is a great design.
I think it can be mounted without suprabaffle if 19mm board is used (not tested).
This Diaclone is a 6,5" speaker with steel basket, big ferrite magnet, whizzerless paper cone and good sensitivity. There are several types, I have the cheapest, the one which looks closest to original Diatone. Around 100€, post included. This:
2 unidad davidlouis Audio 6.5 pulgadas DIATONE P610MK3 version 2019 | eBay
I know this speaker is too big for FH3, but try it anyway because I have no room for a FHXL. I like the sound, good treble (not agressive) detailed and enough bass.
It's amazing that a loudspeaker so different from the original can sound reasonably good. FH3 is a great design.
I think it can be mounted without suprabaffle if 19mm board is used (not tested).
Attachments
I know this speaker is too big for FH3, but try it anyway because I have no room for a FHXL. .
Given the size of th eminiOnken for these i would guess Joan might be the best fit.
dave
🙂🙂🙂The art of project management begins with the act of delegation.
I'm itching to build a small (monitor size) pair of speakers now. When I say build, I mean put a kit together! Wrong thread but can someone direct me to a small speaker flat pack & recommended drivers.
Thanks in advance.
- Home
- Loudspeakers
- Full Range
- Frugel-Horn Mk3