Oh please for the love of God, no like buttons. I really do not like like buttons on forums, it makes people wanting to "earn" likes and competing with each other in that. I have seen that on way too many forums and that is beyond the purpose of this forum. Please keep away from that sort of thing as much as possible. DIYAudio is the last serious DIY forum, please keep it that way, no "likes", no "popular threads" nothing of it
Fair comment - but I like the idea of a ‘heat map’ some way to view just the important posts in a thread. Some of the threads are insanely long with no summary up front. We need to make the knowledge more accessible.
In several of the long threads the OPs are given the ability to edit their first post to update it with important info as it comes available.
rayma, that is unique to the current site as far as I know. If it is considered to be replicated in the future it would be for a specific reason.
This point has been noted. The site will be one that can vary for the target, you'll also have a setting to allow a wider view for a desktop. When it is up and running there will no doubt be feedback that can lead to modifications down the track.
I also hope there will be no "like" button(s). My experience with such systems is that I tend to contribute stuff such that others will like my post, making me look like a hero. Without a "like" button (like here on diyAudio) I care much less about this, which makes it easier to write what I really think.
Long threads usually reflect some sort of evolution and deviation from the question(s) in the first post. Following up on this is part of the fun! I would prefer to NOT have a heatmap of what others (the majority) think where the meat is.
Long threads usually reflect some sort of evolution and deviation from the question(s) in the first post. Following up on this is part of the fun! I would prefer to NOT have a heatmap of what others (the majority) think where the meat is.
@puppet.
The feature does work - however the "read/unread" status of posts is not migrated to the new forum, so there'll be a few days / weeks after go-live for the status to become accurate for the new forum.
There are several comments on like buttons. Here's a brief summary of where we are at. BTW We are calling these "reactions" cos that's what XenForo calls them.
We are considering options for the following two beneficial reasons.
1. Providing a way to eliminate the chaff posts we get now where people respond to say "thank you" and "that worked" etc. So for DMs we might have "got it" and "thanks" etc. as an example.
2. We have millions of posts and we're looking to improve the way we can curate which ones are "good" so as to offer those higher search ranking. So that the search is better.
We are largely against -ve reactions because those are generally misused and encourage personality battles.
"like" as a reaction is unlikely for all the reasons given and because it encourages vapid social media like posts and reactions.
We are testing "Thanks" for everyone but it has no "score". On one forum we have enabled a +1 reaction. [Bugger, I forget what it even is] oh, it is "Useful" to see if that has a beneficial effect.
We are considering options for the following two beneficial reasons.
1. Providing a way to eliminate the chaff posts we get now where people respond to say "thank you" and "that worked" etc. So for DMs we might have "got it" and "thanks" etc. as an example.
2. We have millions of posts and we're looking to improve the way we can curate which ones are "good" so as to offer those higher search ranking. So that the search is better.
We are largely against -ve reactions because those are generally misused and encourage personality battles.
"like" as a reaction is unlikely for all the reasons given and because it encourages vapid social media like posts and reactions.
We are testing "Thanks" for everyone but it has no "score". On one forum we have enabled a +1 reaction. [Bugger, I forget what it even is] oh, it is "Useful" to see if that has a beneficial effect.
I do like the idea of tagging posts for my own use, without it being vissible to others. That might help looking back at some posts of my interest. For anything public I'm very afraid
of social media behaviour of a part of the subscribers.
of social media behaviour of a part of the subscribers.
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The problem I see with this is that * someone* has to decide which posts are important and which not. That takes away the neutrality of the forum. My important posts may be your nonsense posts.
Jan
Hi Jan. Your point is valid and one of the reasons it is complicated. But without any user feedback we just have some algorithm trying to figure what what you want to see when you search, and that has even less nous.
As the number of posts and threads grows it becomes increasingly difficult to find the info you want.
I've tried searching recently for what software I could most readily use for a tube based PCB design. It has not been easy to do on this forum as it stands.
As the number of posts and threads grows it becomes increasingly difficult to find the info you want.
I've tried searching recently for what software I could most readily use for a tube based PCB design. It has not been easy to do on this forum as it stands.
The biggest probleem with algoritmes that try to get to know you is that you'll end up in a bubble which tend to get more restricted the more you follow it. I have never seen it working properly
I use Google first and then sometimes "Search from this thread" function and occasionally listing posts of a certain member to see what they have been up to lately. It is very rare to use the main search on the forum since in general Google does pretty darn good job finding the stuff I'm looking for and I'm not sure if a forum platform could ever match. I'm sure the forum should not solely rely on external search services and it is a hard problem to find relevant data for each as expressed in the previous comments so I wouldn't put too much effort to the main search. Google finds similar content from other forums as well so I'll continue using that no matter what the forum search engine 😉
It would be very handy to be able to bookmark / rate posts easily in personal level. I share same concern as others here with public ranking though that it makes the forum a game. There is possibility for the diyaudio staff to evaluate what the competing forums do though. There might be a possibility to differentiate and steer the content for better quality than others on some aspect perhaps? I haven't thought what this might be. That said, diyaudio has been the favorite so far, haven't even registered to the other international forums. Plenty of accumulated information and not too many minions diluting the important stuff. But for example Tom Danley and some other knowledgeable people have been posting more on some other forums lately and I'm not sure why is that. I think it might be due to getting better noticed due to ranking and liking since especially Youtube as a channels pays out real money and promoting that is easier if there is the likes and stars and what not. Might be something completely irrelevant to a ranking system though, like the fact that people and world changes and so does the forums they prefer 😀
So, maybe think how to make fun and nice atmosphere to get people in and post quality content might be my wish. What ever you do, thanks doing it!🙂
It would be very handy to be able to bookmark / rate posts easily in personal level. I share same concern as others here with public ranking though that it makes the forum a game. There is possibility for the diyaudio staff to evaluate what the competing forums do though. There might be a possibility to differentiate and steer the content for better quality than others on some aspect perhaps? I haven't thought what this might be. That said, diyaudio has been the favorite so far, haven't even registered to the other international forums. Plenty of accumulated information and not too many minions diluting the important stuff. But for example Tom Danley and some other knowledgeable people have been posting more on some other forums lately and I'm not sure why is that. I think it might be due to getting better noticed due to ranking and liking since especially Youtube as a channels pays out real money and promoting that is easier if there is the likes and stars and what not. Might be something completely irrelevant to a ranking system though, like the fact that people and world changes and so does the forums they prefer 😀
So, maybe think how to make fun and nice atmosphere to get people in and post quality content might be my wish. What ever you do, thanks doing it!🙂
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If I search the forum, I search for a specific subject or issue. I do not need my search to be biased by 'popularity', I don't feel that this would give me better results. Maybe even the opposite.
YMMV of course.
Jan
YMMV of course.
Jan