Speaking of Billy Strings, he is on the newest cover of Acoustic Guitar Magazine. This guy is really bringing acoustic music to a young crowd and everybody, he is great. I need to check him out live!
Plus I am in this issue (sorry, no digital yet, just screen shots for now). AGM said we will write the Ad, and you can approve or make any changes.
I said what changes? Run it!!!
I said what changes? Run it!!!
I cant say enough about the value of that Pocket Master device, for ~$50. Barely begun to explore; just been using its compressor effect and reverb on my voice. Some of the stuff I practice to, this thing has a better sounding reverb than the studio did for the original singer.I just got a "Sonicake" "Pocket Master". A ~$50 effects box for guitar; pickup in, stereo effects out. It can do a Tremolo in stereo; wonder what that would sound like through your two horns?
Latest effort for me is converting a recent Chinese guitar amp cabinet into two 8" (Visaton BG20 I've had on the shelf for a couple years), along with a Rockford Fosgate R150 car plate amp I recently picked, good for 35W total into both 8 ohm BG20s. Intent is to put that with the Pocket Masters stereo output. A small 6AH LiPo 12V cell should run it for better than an hour (Seeing <2A measured while playing music pretty loud), for more performance time than I got in me. Like the Pocket Master, a second battery is cheap, ~$20-$30 on Amzn.
Many bring their own amp to the open mic. Some just like to hear their guitar sound coming from behind them, versus a floor monitor. I'll encourage that behavior ;') I'm going to get a second Pocket Master for my guitar channel. Mix the two stereo outs into the stereo in on the amp. Hoping to go as far as getting a Leslie effect on the guitar channel.
Also, the Pocket Master can do Cab IRs, with 5 user slots for IR effect. Hoping to make use of that one day to, well, I wont say just yet. You could use that function to play around with the sound of your horns, possibly making your guitar sound like the proverbial "anything" amp and speaker modelling can do.
I bought a second one. I'm actually going to use one for voice (compression and luscious ambient; I like "church") and one for guitar (compression and ambient and whatever else I can dial up that sounds good).I can see why you like it JJ, big bang for the bucks.
I threw together a 2X8 cab (out of a pre-existing guitar amp box that had a 10") and loaded it with a pair of Visaton BG20s I've had on the shelf for a couple years. Driven by a Rockford Fosgate 150W car plate amp, that should provide ~18W into each 8 Ohm speaker, hoping for a clean, full range, "effortless" sound. 50W of 12V power is no problem, via brick or battery.
The dream is to take advantage of the stereo output of the Pocket Master. I'm counting on mixing the two's headphone out (10 ohm spec impedance) with a simple resistor network and use the individual unit level controls to balance between voice and instrument. Then send that stereo signal to the FR box with the BG20s and power amp in it. I'm pretty sure the R-F amp has the gain to make up for the loss in the resistor mixer.
Stretch goals is to have that resistor mixer be able to drive headphones as well. Add a pair of 650 MHz wireless so I can play over here, set the amp over there with no cord to trip over. I have one wireless set, just bought another for stereo, run each set at different selectable carrier frequencies.
Your rig wouldnt have the cord to trip over issue; if you can engineer a pair of amps and batteries up into the available voids inside your FHAG.
Yeah, that would be great, enough power to do the trick, and keep it clean, but of course only when you want it clean!18W into each 8 Ohm speaker, hoping for a clean, full range, "effortless" sound. 50W of 12V power is no problem, via brick or battery.
JJ - I need a custom amp and battery pack. Maybe the Purdue-Gibson partnership could do this for a great improvement, then then it would be partially their baby.Your rig wouldn't have the cord to trip over issue; if you can engineer a pair of amps and batteries up into the available voids inside your FHAG.
https://mmrmagazine.com/clone/purdu...ring-technology-program-partners-with-gibson/
JJ - I need a custom amp and battery pack
The amp part shouldnt be all that difficult, with Class D being so abundant these days with its far less significant thermals to engineer a solution to.
A couple reason I ended up with the car plate amp is well, luck and a 12V LiPo battery is off the shelf and even cheap. I happened to have one, 6 AH used in another attempt at a small sound reinforcement amplifier project. It sat all last winter and half this year without attention - apparently no problem.
The battery just comes with all the attendant circuitry needed to regulate voltage to imitate a lead acid battery, handle thermal protection (I assume to at least avoid a fire) current limit (I assume at least for a short circuit) and charging (whatever cells they put in there balancing, stop charging when full or upon temperature issue). From the outside, it handles pretty much like a more ordinary 12V battery. They make equivalent 9V "transistor radio" batteries in a similar way
"12" is a popular voltage, although I'm sure whoever designed it could make it any voltage you want. Probably even charge with a common 12V lead acid battery charger, outputs 23 or whatever. "We" dont have the unit count for a custom job like that.
Pretty sure all the tech for it is very common in Asia industry and leveraged off the ubiquitous laptop battery. Where there's millions and millions in service here in the US and people can casually leave it plugged in and get in the car and go shopping without any fear whatsoever.
Nevertheless, I think it's be a great project for a university engineering student to come up with a solution for. All I did was the 'ol "cement half A to half B", turn it on and "it works!"...
Not sure what is happening, but I usually get about 300 hits per week on this thread. In the last week I have 4,000 hits, which is more than 10X the average. I wonder if hit rates are not accurate suddenly on diyAudio? Any body else experience this?
Maybe it is legit? Not sure why, but if it is legit, I will take it!
Maybe it is legit? Not sure why, but if it is legit, I will take it!
https://www.tone3000.com/ Supposedly, you can upload two digital tracks recorded simultaneously; the pickup track and the mic'd guitar (how it sounds acoustically) track.
I'll guess that quality of your actual performance doesnt matter, as no one will hear that. Probably just needs to be clean playin', clean amplification is all, as you want the sound of the speakers, not someone's amp that's driving them. Whatever tone settings you think sounds best, will get captured as well.
So the website takes the two recordings, figures out what's different between them sonically and creates a NAM (Neural Amp Model) containing the "filter" to make a similar pickup output sound as if it's being "played through" your guitar. In your case, the FHAG if you have these available from your studio sessions, or are willing to create new ones for this specific effort.
Now anyone with an amp modeler that can handle NAM files could hear what their (electric, or piezo pickup) might sound like going through the FHAG speaker system. Perhaps that would generate some enthusiasm among guitarists seeking an all in one amplified acoustic guitar. Put a link to that file in your ad!
The Sonicake PM device handles the NAM files.
I'll guess that quality of your actual performance doesnt matter, as no one will hear that. Probably just needs to be clean playin', clean amplification is all, as you want the sound of the speakers, not someone's amp that's driving them. Whatever tone settings you think sounds best, will get captured as well.
So the website takes the two recordings, figures out what's different between them sonically and creates a NAM (Neural Amp Model) containing the "filter" to make a similar pickup output sound as if it's being "played through" your guitar. In your case, the FHAG if you have these available from your studio sessions, or are willing to create new ones for this specific effort.
Now anyone with an amp modeler that can handle NAM files could hear what their (electric, or piezo pickup) might sound like going through the FHAG speaker system. Perhaps that would generate some enthusiasm among guitarists seeking an all in one amplified acoustic guitar. Put a link to that file in your ad!
The Sonicake PM device handles the NAM files.
JJ - sampling and IR's, will people start to call themselves a laptop player, not a guitar player? 🤣 I know there is much value in this for sure. Actually I am looking forward to the brave new world of music that will develop over time. Music has changed greatly for many centuries, and why not continue? Bravo to you for exploring this!
Over time, what will happen to learning how to play an actual instrument? Will this actually help? Will it hurt this endeavor? I think it is unknown right now, but worth considering. Also playing instruments with other musicians, LIVE? Will this survive? I hope so!
I think the Symphony may save us all, God bless them for tuning to the Oboe and playing everything acoustically. Sure there are mics used to amplify the sound, but you sure as hell better know music theory, the music composition you are playing, and your instrument like the back of your hand. This impresses me not because I can't do it, but far more importantly: because it is beautiful.
I know, I am old school, and I don't mind if people want to give me **** for that, it is OK. The digital world will surely create some fantastic music, but don't forget the instruments that don't use sampling, they use actual fingers, arms, lungs and some serious soul!
BTW - maybe the Purdue crowd can take some our your suggestions to heart!
Over time, what will happen to learning how to play an actual instrument? Will this actually help? Will it hurt this endeavor? I think it is unknown right now, but worth considering. Also playing instruments with other musicians, LIVE? Will this survive? I hope so!
I think the Symphony may save us all, God bless them for tuning to the Oboe and playing everything acoustically. Sure there are mics used to amplify the sound, but you sure as hell better know music theory, the music composition you are playing, and your instrument like the back of your hand. This impresses me not because I can't do it, but far more importantly: because it is beautiful.
I know, I am old school, and I don't mind if people want to give me **** for that, it is OK. The digital world will surely create some fantastic music, but don't forget the instruments that don't use sampling, they use actual fingers, arms, lungs and some serious soul!
BTW - maybe the Purdue crowd can take some our your suggestions to heart!
Art - I was thinking the same thing, some sort of crazy Hit bot? In fact, I just got another 2,000 hits since I last looked. I can't prove it, but I think it might be mostly from Google AI and the like. I did start an Instagram account recently, and also the two Acoustic Guitar Magazine hard copy and digital Ads are fairly new.Hit bot?
I think people are asking Google "what is a folded horn", what is a "folded horn speaker", and what is a "folded horn guitar"
The results I have from Google AI come from Reddit, YouTube, Quora, TalkBass.com, my Patent, and of course diyAudio.com
So these hits appear to be legit, but most are not from members, so maybe I should consider them to be half hits? 🤣
maybe the Purdue crowd can take some our your suggestions to heart!
I'm sure they already know. They claim some pretty wild accuracy in hitting the sound of amplifiers and speaker cabinets, using NAM. I thought it'd be good for you and your product, as you could provide a sense of how the FHAG sounds to a prospective buyer easily.
They use the same "canned" player / riff to demo all the different amp and cabinet models, so your playing isnt what's heard, even though that's one way to submit your sound into their on line and downloadable collection.
Maybe I'll open another thread about it elsewhere here. I'm in a similar boat as you; I've created something, but my playing isnt good enough to really show what it can do. Therefore, I have no idea of what it could do in the hands of some monster player, like Casey. I have no idea if it's good or not; sounds like another tube amp full of distortion to me - might as well be a PRO CO RAT for all I can hear.
Run the analysis and submit the model, maybe others in the NAM community can hear what I cant. Like your hits, judge by the number of your amp's model downloads - If it really does something else and that something is good, people should want it, particularly for free. All I can tell is it makes a square wave on the oscilloscope...
- Home
- Live Sound
- Instruments and Amps
- Folded Horn Acoustic Guitar Patent # 10,777,172