Haha, I read it years ago in a collection of sci-fi short stories, thought about it for the first time in years a few days ago when I mentioned it to someone at work.......strange coincidenceIn spite of my knowledge, I can only recommend this:
http://www.mikedidonato.com/images/2009/04/harlan-ellison-i-hav-no-mouth-and-i-must-scream.pdf
I would like to advice to read it.
Especially for Mr. Zuckerberg. 😉
Then you can think about it.
And I not accidentally deleted once and for all my FB account.
I think, Mr. Zuckerberg will feel this blow. 😉
I think, Mr. Zuckerberg will feel this blow. 😉
This looks somewhat like research, although based on different assumptions from that generally accepted by most scientists. All science has to make assumptions; at least their assumptions are sufficiently explicit to be criticised by those who do not share them.Fast Eddie D said:I hope you realize that the Institute for Creation "Research" is not a scientific source. They are 100% a religious apologetic source; 0% scientific.
And they don't do any "research" either. 100% sham institution.
Just out of interest, how many peer-reviewed scientific research papers have you published?
According to Wikipedia:Fast Eddie D said:And the author, John D. Morris, PhD, is an infamous quack.
That hardly sounds like the background of a "quack". Unless, of course, the University of Oklahoma is not a serious institution but scatters its PhDs around randomly. I am not in a position to judge the quality of American universities.Morris served on the University of Oklahoma faculty before joining the Institute for Creation Research in 1984. He received his Doctorate in Geological Engineering at the University of Oklahoma in 1980. Morris held the position of Professor of Geology before being appointed President in 1996. Morris has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from Virginia Tech (1969), an M.S., University of Oklahoma (1977), and a Ph.D., University of Oklahoma (1980) in Geological Engineering.
Just out of interest, what are your academic qualifications?
I see where you're coming from.......a bit of POSITIVITY, yes - YouTubeI did not accidentally confront the first three with the last one.
Ha,you beat me to the musical interlude!
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I am not in a position to judge the quality of American universities.
This phenomena is not new.
Alexander Abian (1923–1999) – American mathematician who taught for many years at Iowa State University who became an Internet legend for his incessant and frequently bizarre posts to various Usenet newsgroups. In particular, he gained international notoriety for his claims that blowing up the Moon would solve virtually every problem of human existence, and that mass and time are equivalent. (With regard to the second claim, it was suggested on the "sci.astro.amateur" newsgroup that his demise be observed with a gram of silence.) One of Dr. Abian's most endearing hypotheses was the challenge to the Big Bang Theory with the Big Suck Theory.
Well that I can 100% agree to!
But those demands are not silly for us, they are silly when viewed from the outside, from Nature's point of view. We all want a nice house to live in, a comfortable car or two, a high-end system. For us it is not silly because that is the way evolution (😉) made us.
But I agree, seen from the sustainablility of the environment they are pretty silly.
Jan
Jan, i'm not trying to twist your words, it's a language barrier mixed with culture, nothing offensive from my side, just thinking out loud.
What is that, that you call "the nature"? You said that the nature has it's point of view about our silly needs so it must have an consciousness?
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I think there we arrived a quite serious problem, there's no real science only business.
I agree.
Well that I can 100% agree to!
We all want a nice house to live in, a comfortable car or two, a high-end system. For us it is not silly because that is the way evolution (😉) made us.
Jan
Btw, have you noticed that all thing you mentoned, that we all want, are matirial? We are all programed to crave for things like that, it's good for buisness, but I'm shure is bad for humanity....
Jan, i'm not trying to twist your words, it's a language barrier mixed with culture, nothing offensive from my side, just thinking out loud.
What is that, that you call "the nature"? You said that the nature has it's point of view about our silly needs so it must have an consciousness?
No, I haven't been very clear, I thought the context would make it clear. I was using 'Nature' as a symbol for 'the universe' or something we can't put our finger on but the opposite of the view from our humanity. For instance, our needs and striving is important for us (obviously), but 'the universe' doesn't care, there is no purpose or goal in the universe, it just 'is' and develops according to some laws. From that point of view, our needs and goals are totally irrelevant; indeed, we are totally irrelevant.
If by some fluke the sun explodes tomorrow and earth is incinerated, humanity ceases to exist. A catastrophe for us, but for 'the universe' that is totally irrelevant.
A famous Dutch science writer wrote a book about the development of intelligent life on earth and the title is 'A glorious accident' and that sums it up nicely as far as I am concerned.
Jan
Btw, have you noticed that all thing you mentoned, that we all want, are matirial? We are all programed to crave for things like that, it's good for buisness, but I'm shure is bad for humanity....
Well it may be bad for your ideas of what is good for humanity. Who knows what is good for humanity? So far our material striving has done very well for humanity. Individual humans may be disadvantaged, but that is unimportant if it is about humanity as a whole.
Remember that the result of evolution is better surviving in your environment, which means more individuals. And there have never been so many humans as today so by definition we do very well.
Jan
That's all fine and dandy 😉 and I think it probably is an accident, there is no evidence of it being anything more. Except.......can you spot the interesting word in post 1053 which I think still requires some explaining...........? 😱

That's all fine and dandy 😉 and I think it probably is an accident, there is no evidence of it being anything more. Except.......can you spot the interesting word in post 1053 which I think still requires some explaining...........? 😱![]()
You mean 'Dutch'? ;-)
So far our material striving has done very well for humanity. Individual humans may be disadvantaged, but that is unimportant if it is about humanity as a whole.
Jan
Wow, I will not comment on this, you said a lot about yourself...
Eh? No, why would I mean that? I believe there are famous Dutch science writers! haha. No, tis the word "laws", causes all kinds of problems doesn't it? Like the obvious...requires a lawmaker....or....did we make the laws as a convenient way of describing what we see?
Wow, I will not comment on this, you said a lot about yourself...
I believe he is looking at it totally dispassionately, as maybe "Nature" would.
A common disconnect is to speak of nature or the universe as distinct from us, as in "man is destroying nature". We are part of it, our civilization is part of it, our tools and material possessions are part of it and our technologies are part of it. You can embrace or reject humans and their trappings and the impact they have, but it's all nature (or the universe if you prefer) and therefore natural!
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