F4 power amplifier

I specifically asked because this one seems to need a LOT of heatsink- more than most of the previous amps I think? Members seem to be happiest with heatsinks that are almost 30x30 by 50 cm per channel I believe and that's a lot bigger than the typical First Watt chassis I think.

If in fact Nelson uses the same heatsinks as before, with their horizontal orientation, it shows that the requirements are not quite as onerous as implied..

PLus the face plate will look different....😉
 
Variac said:
I specifically asked because this one seems to need a LOT of heatsink- more than most of the previous amps I think? Members seem to be happiest with heatsinks that are almost 30x30 by 50 cm per channel I believe and that's a lot bigger than the typical First Watt chassis I think.

If in fact Nelson uses the same heatsinks as before, with their horizontal orientation, it shows that the requirements are not quite as onerous as implied..

PLus the face plate will look different....😉

As far as I recall the F4 actually dissipates a bit less than the usual SE/CCS amps from NP. Approx 80 watts per channel.
Usually this figure is 100 watts.

Steen🙂
 
Let's say 2 amps bias per SE channel bij 44 volt is 88 Watt in class A to dissipate in a heatsink. So lets see the specs for thermal resistance of a irfp240
Tj-c =0,83K/W, Tc-s = 0.24K/W 0,5 K/W for an isolation plate and lets put al six on one 0,3 K/W heatsink (200mm SK56 from fisher).
Thats 1,8K/W best for a single FET. Gives me a total of 3.37K/W from junction to ambient.
One FET dissipates 88/6 Watt multiplie that by the 3,37K/W gives 49,4 K above ambient for the junction temp.
I think or was it to quick and simple ??
 
That fiendish Nelson seems to design his projects to fit the case!
Actually I'll bet he figured that first Watt will probably never exceed 25w/ch class A and ordered the case from there..
Ok OK - I guess I now know what it will look like....

Best advice on the heatsinks was "Crank up the bias until its at max allowable temp" Then I guess you can measure the bias and decide if that's enough. There never seems to be "too much" 😉
If not enough: mas heatsink.
 
massimo said:



Could be a beefy F3 + Forblues front end.....
Maybe not excactly a Blues frontend, which is mostly working as a J-fet buffer, but I guess too that if there is an additional gainstage its a J-fet thing. Maybe more like a diffpair, assuming its a X'ed F3? The F5 could be the active crossover for mating a woofer to a fullrange speaker. Seems we are not gonna get bored for a while😉

Steen 🙂