you mean the 300 ohm wire wounds? 0.247 VDC and 0.025 DC on the other
OK there is an imbalance on the output tube Idle but ignore that at the moment!
Are both channels not working? Or just one side and the other OK?
Regards
M. Gregg
both dead at the moment, imbalance was what prompted valve change
Measure with DC volts one side of the meter to ground what voltage do you have on pins 3 and 4 of the EL34's show left and right side measurements.
I know your probably tempted to wiz off and try lots of other things but please be slow and meticulous..
Regards
M. Gregg
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left pin 3 423 vdc
right pin 3 426
left pin 4 359vdc
rightpin 4 358 vdc
Now here is the interesting bit..look at pin 4 measurements!
Looking at the drawing pin 4 should be 225V..
So the input tubes might not be conducting..
What voltage do you have on pin 2 and 5 of the input tube?
Shown as 120V on the diagram
Regards
M. Gregg
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pin 6 to ground on input valves gives 1.8vdc left and 1.6vdc right.
there is some hum on left channel and crackle when i take measurements on left
Change the EL34 on the channel with the low cathode reading..and measure the cathode voltage again..
Does the channel that crackles work?
Regards
M. Gregg
don't know what happened tp previous post
pin 2 left 129 v
pin 2 right 133v
pin5 left 125
pin5 right 130
So the input tubes are conducting..
When you say it doesn't work its broken, do you mean both channels don't work or one channel dosen't work?
Regards
M. Gregg
No signal through either side left was humming and crackling but isn't since EL34s swapped.
originally both sides worked with one very low, swapping input valves swapped low channel. it stopped working altogether when i changed to 5h9c and still didn't work when 6n9p were put back
originally both sides worked with one very low, swapping input valves swapped low channel. it stopped working altogether when i changed to 5h9c and still didn't work when 6n9p were put back
first measure 0.247 left 0.025 right
tubes swapped
0.011 left 0.113 right
problem swapped with tubes.
The tube with the low reading is either faulty or the wrong type.
Is the resistor on pin5 of the EL34 220K on both sides?
Regards
M. Gregg
OK change of idea,
Do you have some cheap speakers you can attach to the amp?
Put one lead in the meter and touch the probe on the pin 5 of each EL34 do you get a pop buzz or anything out of the speakers on each side?
It could be that you "may" have a faulty input tube and a faulty output tube very strange but possible..
We need to get an EL34 that buzzes when you touch the pin 5. Keep that one in and put the other out of reach for a moment.
Then check both input valves with the working EL34.
Regards
M. Gregg
Do you have some cheap speakers you can attach to the amp?
Put one lead in the meter and touch the probe on the pin 5 of each EL34 do you get a pop buzz or anything out of the speakers on each side?
It could be that you "may" have a faulty input tube and a faulty output tube very strange but possible..
We need to get an EL34 that buzzes when you touch the pin 5. Keep that one in and put the other out of reach for a moment.
Then check both input valves with the working EL34.
Regards
M. Gregg
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both have correct banding but with amp off i can't get a reading off either
OK at this point I have some things to do.
Hopefully someone will pick up with you I have to sign off.
I'll get back later and see whats happening.
220K is quite high are you sure they are open circuit? not just high resistance shown on the meter?
Regards
M. Gregg
Just a quick check while I think about it,
You do have the wire from Pin4 EL34 to the 10K on the PSU?
A quick safety mod put a 2Watt 470K 500V resistor across (same positon in circuit) the 330uF to discharge. (solder in permanent) keep it away from the cap and anything else it will get warm!
Do the tests in post 54#..
I must admit its a bit daft there seems to be a lot of variables so if you do the tests in post 54# and at least we will know if the EL34's and output circuit are any good![Big grin :D :D](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Regards
M. Gregg
You do have the wire from Pin4 EL34 to the 10K on the PSU?
A quick safety mod put a 2Watt 470K 500V resistor across (same positon in circuit) the 330uF to discharge. (solder in permanent) keep it away from the cap and anything else it will get warm!
Do the tests in post 54#..
I must admit its a bit daft there seems to be a lot of variables so if you do the tests in post 54# and at least we will know if the EL34's and output circuit are any good
Regards
M. Gregg
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