Dear Steve, you do realise that you originally asked if anyone knew what Planck's constant of action actually is?
I assured you that 'quantum of action' is just another name for Planck's constant, and the paper backed me up by saying that "The constants h and hA have the same numerical values."
I wasn't interested in what else the paper had to say. If you say the rest is Voodoo Science then I'm quite happy to accept your judgement!
The 7 Deadly Sins of Junk Science are well described in this article: https://foodinsight.org/the-seven-deadly-sins-of-junk-science/
I see that Steve is banging on about soccer over in his Brilliancy in Sport thread. He obviously has a fascination for oddly shaped balls! ⚽
But does he know that soccer doesn't have mirror symmetry - that there is a preferred anticlockwise direction in the game?
In soccer, there are two main ways to kick the ball - either with the inner or outer side of the foot.
The first causes the ball to spin anticlockwise while the second causes the ball to spin clockwise.
However, crosses and passes are made with the inner side of the foot, as this makes it considerably easier to control the ball.
This induces an asymmetry between the two types of spins, making the game of soccer 'mirror asymmetric'.
According to the article I have just read, the daughter black hole created in the merger of two spinning black holes also has spin, and just as with a kicked soccer ball, this can be either right-handed or left-handed with respect to its direction of motion: https://www.space.com/black-hole-mirror-image-hidden-symmetry-universe
If our standard assumptions about the universe and gravity hold, there should be no asymmetry in the gravitational waves emitted by black hole mergers in the universe - there should be an equal amount of left-handed waves and right-handed waves. It is not surprising that astrophysicists are keen to establish that this is definitely the case!
But does he know that soccer doesn't have mirror symmetry - that there is a preferred anticlockwise direction in the game?
In soccer, there are two main ways to kick the ball - either with the inner or outer side of the foot.
The first causes the ball to spin anticlockwise while the second causes the ball to spin clockwise.
However, crosses and passes are made with the inner side of the foot, as this makes it considerably easier to control the ball.
This induces an asymmetry between the two types of spins, making the game of soccer 'mirror asymmetric'.
According to the article I have just read, the daughter black hole created in the merger of two spinning black holes also has spin, and just as with a kicked soccer ball, this can be either right-handed or left-handed with respect to its direction of motion: https://www.space.com/black-hole-mirror-image-hidden-symmetry-universe
If our standard assumptions about the universe and gravity hold, there should be no asymmetry in the gravitational waves emitted by black hole mergers in the universe - there should be an equal amount of left-handed waves and right-handed waves. It is not surprising that astrophysicists are keen to establish that this is definitely the case!
I find a rather basic flaw in the argument in likening Spinning Black Holes to football games.
I am surprised that the University of Santiago in Spain is unaware that their own Spanish Left Back, Marc Cuccarella, you know that long haired yob who also plays for Chelsea is entirely left-footed.
This is usually balanced by having a right-footed right back. Think Trent Alexander-Arnoldwho can't defend for **** or Kyle Walker now rightly offloaded by Pep Guardiola as a troubled individual like Marcus Rashford. That way, their crosses bend away from the goalie and into the path of an inrushing midfielder like, say, Bobby Charlton who could whack a ball into the top corner with either boot! Truly a defenders nightmare.
I also wonder why we should worry about spinning Black Holes. Surely there are more pressing problems in the World?
Naturally I know a great deal about Black Holes, and have even studied the issue of making them Lorentz Covariant. Am up to date on the Literature:
It gets worse with Super Massive Black Holes (SMBH):
What greatly concerns me is that these people are paid for with yours and mine taxes. I think they could be more usefully employed flipping burgers in McDonalds or litter picking.
I must acknowledge @Ro808 who thoughtfully drew this paper to my attention.
My main interest remains Quantum Mechanics, and am keen to learn more about the Planck Constant from you.
I am surprised that the University of Santiago in Spain is unaware that their own Spanish Left Back, Marc Cuccarella,
This is usually balanced by having a right-footed right back. Think Trent Alexander-Arnold
I also wonder why we should worry about spinning Black Holes. Surely there are more pressing problems in the World?
Naturally I know a great deal about Black Holes, and have even studied the issue of making them Lorentz Covariant. Am up to date on the Literature:
It gets worse with Super Massive Black Holes (SMBH):
What greatly concerns me is that these people are paid for with yours and mine taxes. I think they could be more usefully employed flipping burgers in McDonalds or litter picking.
I must acknowledge @Ro808 who thoughtfully drew this paper to my attention.
My main interest remains Quantum Mechanics, and am keen to learn more about the Planck Constant from you.
While watching 'Stranger Things' Season 3 on Netflix, I noticed that an error was made in the value of Planck's constant.
To cut a long story short, the numerical value of Planck’s constant is required to open a safe that contains the two keys required to close the gate to the Upside Down, and is quoted as 6.62607004.
However, this is the value established for Planck’s constant in 2014. In 1985, when the show is set, it would have been the value established in 1973, which is 6.626176 x 10^-34.
(P.S. In 2018, the value was updated again as part of the redefinition of the International System of Units. The numerical value of Planck’s constant is currently 6.62607015 x 10^-34 with units of Joule seconds.)
Hmm, cute song. BUT YOU DID NOT SPOT THE ERROR IN PLANCK'S CONSTANT! I know I wouldn't have....
I have had similar experiences though. While watching "Oppenheimer", I alone shouted out "FEYNMAN!" when a guy was playing Bongo Drums.
And in "3000 Years of Longing" i naturally picked out Maxwell's Equations on a supposed 3000 year old Babylonian parchment produced by a Genie.
But whatever the value, I am trying to find out what it really means, you follow.
According to Dirac, h / 4 Pi is the quantum of electronic spin angular momentum or half h-bar, whereas h is simply the proportionality factor for the Energy of photons of frequency v or nu.
Really coming from different ends of Spin half Fermions, and Spin 1 Bosons.
Simplest thing I could think of to test was the 21 cm microwave spin transistion of Hydrogen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_line
Found a paper on it:
Bit semi-classical, that one. The answer is:
I recognised bits of it, and g is magnetic moments, but it doesn't really help. And Dirac's musings are impenetrable to me in my current stage. Oh well.
I have had similar experiences though. While watching "Oppenheimer", I alone shouted out "FEYNMAN!" when a guy was playing Bongo Drums.
And in "3000 Years of Longing" i naturally picked out Maxwell's Equations on a supposed 3000 year old Babylonian parchment produced by a Genie.
But whatever the value, I am trying to find out what it really means, you follow.
According to Dirac, h / 4 Pi is the quantum of electronic spin angular momentum or half h-bar, whereas h is simply the proportionality factor for the Energy of photons of frequency v or nu.
Really coming from different ends of Spin half Fermions, and Spin 1 Bosons.
Simplest thing I could think of to test was the 21 cm microwave spin transistion of Hydrogen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_line
Found a paper on it:
Bit semi-classical, that one. The answer is:
I recognised bits of it, and g is magnetic moments, but it doesn't really help. And Dirac's musings are impenetrable to me in my current stage. Oh well.
I was interested enough to check the digits for accuracy.
I should really get a life, perhaps in the Upside Down!
It would be more fun than viewing posts consisting of extracts from papers and books. 😉
"...At the end of each reduced Compton time interval, there is a photon-photon collision giving rise to a Planck mass particle lasting the Planck time. Derivations show that this particle has the mathematical properties of an extremal Reissner-Nordström Planck mass black hole, which remarkably has zero black hole entropy and zero Hawking radiation inside the Planck time window. It is a single microstate and the building block of all masses."
Which somehow evokes thoughts of a 'Black Holes matter' cult.
Which somehow evokes thoughts of a 'Black Holes matter' cult.
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I like to attempt to put flesh on the bones of contributions that are frustratingly unaccompanied by any form of explanation.
The description of an elementary particle of Planck mass (in the order 10^−8 kg or 10^19 GeV)) requires a quantum theory of gravity.
According to the Big Bang theory, energies equivalent to the Planck mass occurred in the early universe, giving rise to quantum-gravitational effects.
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100330105
Since 'Planck mass' and 'Planck' time have been mentioned by Ro808, here's a table of Planck units to which we can all refer.
It is thought that the Planck length represents the approximate lower limit at which a black hole could form by collapse.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/quantum-black-holes-2007-04/
These Planck mass black holes are also known as quantum black holes or primordial black holes.
It's not my fault! 
The article from which I took the above quote failed to insert the negative signs into the Planck length and Planck mass values!
But I kick myself for not spotting that sooner.
The article from which I took the above quote failed to insert the negative signs into the Planck length and Planck mass values!
But I kick myself for not spotting that sooner.
@Ro808 mentioned a photon-photon collision giving rise to a Planck mass black hole.
I've edited a Britannica entry in order to expand on that scenario:
"The energies needed to smash particles to within a Planck length of each other were available to the Universe at a time called the Planck time.
At the Planck time, the mass density of the Universe is thought to have approached the Planck density of 10^93 grams per cubic centimetre.
Contained within a Planck volume is a Planck mass of roughly 10^−5 gram. An object of such mass would be a quantum black hole, with an event horizon close to both its own Compton length (distance over which a particle is quantum mechanically “fuzzy”) and the size of the cosmic horizon at the Planck time. Under such extreme conditions, space-time cannot be treated as a classical continuum and must be given a quantum interpretation."
https://www.britannica.com/science/Planck-density
I've edited a Britannica entry in order to expand on that scenario:
"The energies needed to smash particles to within a Planck length of each other were available to the Universe at a time called the Planck time.
At the Planck time, the mass density of the Universe is thought to have approached the Planck density of 10^93 grams per cubic centimetre.
Contained within a Planck volume is a Planck mass of roughly 10^−5 gram. An object of such mass would be a quantum black hole, with an event horizon close to both its own Compton length (distance over which a particle is quantum mechanically “fuzzy”) and the size of the cosmic horizon at the Planck time. Under such extreme conditions, space-time cannot be treated as a classical continuum and must be given a quantum interpretation."
https://www.britannica.com/science/Planck-density
Interesting post I came across:
"AT THE SAME TIME & INSTANTANEOUSLY
If there is "Absolute time", then there must be "At the same time", and if there is "At the same time", it means "Instantaneously". At the same moment, the clocks on different time zones on Earth only show different hours, although the time units are the same. In order for everyone on Earth to shout out at the same time, the clocks on different time zones must show the same time, such as aligning with the prime meridian for example, and then agreeing with each other, at a certain instant, to shout out together. If not using the same time units, then we have no way to achieve this, even using light signals.
Extraterrestrials observing humans at that moment will not be able to understand our simultaneous actions, because there is no physical connection between us, not even light, they will conclude that we have instantaneously influenced each other. Whether standing near or far from the mirror, your actions and the person in the mirror are always simultaneous, if you think that light takes time to travel from you to the mirror and back, then you cannot explain that simultaneity. The image in the mirror always reminds you that whatever you see in the universe is happening simultaneously with you. When you hold the mirror, all images of the physical world no matter how far away are in your hands, distance loses all meaning, because everything is on the same plane. The issue lies in the fact that light travels from you to the mirror and the light from your image in the mirror travels to the mirror simultaneously, while the distance from the image in the mirror to the mirror is zero (Objects and their images are always symmetric across the mirror plane. Therefore, any process from the object to the mirror and the image of the object in the mirror always occur simultaneously, or the image in the mirror is always simultaneous with the object being reflected.). We live in the physical world, light brings to our minds the concept of relative speed like "faster", "slower", etc... of course, these relative concepts are generalized for the entire physical world. Accordingly, every phenomenon in the physical world must occur sequentially in a process with a certain time interval for that process, there can be no process that is "instantaneous". That is the physical world, but beyond this horizon, there are other horizons, images that do not belong to the physical world, so this world cannot be described in the language of the physical world. Imitating the witch in the fairy tale "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", The light asks the mirror:
"The mirror hanging on the wall
Tell me who runs as fast as I do?"
The mirror answers immediately:
"Once you ran the fastest on earth
Today "Illusion" runs a thousand times faster
You are not hidden in mountains and hills
But hiding right within yourself"
The material world only exists in reality, while the past and future of the material world only exist in the intellectual cognition of human beings. Therefore, when studying the motion of the material world in reality, time is only mentioned in the concept of instantaneous velocity at the moment of observation.
The Theory of Relativity does not allow us to have concepts of absolute time and space, hence there is no concept of simultaneity and vector concept in multi-dimensional curved space. Current theoretical physics textbooks accept this theory yet still consider simultaneity as natural, deliberately ignoring the absurdity to the point of humor, and then applying Vector Analysis in mathematics to justify, turning theoretical physics into a mess as it is today."
"AT THE SAME TIME & INSTANTANEOUSLY
If there is "Absolute time", then there must be "At the same time", and if there is "At the same time", it means "Instantaneously". At the same moment, the clocks on different time zones on Earth only show different hours, although the time units are the same. In order for everyone on Earth to shout out at the same time, the clocks on different time zones must show the same time, such as aligning with the prime meridian for example, and then agreeing with each other, at a certain instant, to shout out together. If not using the same time units, then we have no way to achieve this, even using light signals.
Extraterrestrials observing humans at that moment will not be able to understand our simultaneous actions, because there is no physical connection between us, not even light, they will conclude that we have instantaneously influenced each other. Whether standing near or far from the mirror, your actions and the person in the mirror are always simultaneous, if you think that light takes time to travel from you to the mirror and back, then you cannot explain that simultaneity. The image in the mirror always reminds you that whatever you see in the universe is happening simultaneously with you. When you hold the mirror, all images of the physical world no matter how far away are in your hands, distance loses all meaning, because everything is on the same plane. The issue lies in the fact that light travels from you to the mirror and the light from your image in the mirror travels to the mirror simultaneously, while the distance from the image in the mirror to the mirror is zero (Objects and their images are always symmetric across the mirror plane. Therefore, any process from the object to the mirror and the image of the object in the mirror always occur simultaneously, or the image in the mirror is always simultaneous with the object being reflected.). We live in the physical world, light brings to our minds the concept of relative speed like "faster", "slower", etc... of course, these relative concepts are generalized for the entire physical world. Accordingly, every phenomenon in the physical world must occur sequentially in a process with a certain time interval for that process, there can be no process that is "instantaneous". That is the physical world, but beyond this horizon, there are other horizons, images that do not belong to the physical world, so this world cannot be described in the language of the physical world. Imitating the witch in the fairy tale "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", The light asks the mirror:
"The mirror hanging on the wall
Tell me who runs as fast as I do?"
The mirror answers immediately:
"Once you ran the fastest on earth
Today "Illusion" runs a thousand times faster
You are not hidden in mountains and hills
But hiding right within yourself"
The material world only exists in reality, while the past and future of the material world only exist in the intellectual cognition of human beings. Therefore, when studying the motion of the material world in reality, time is only mentioned in the concept of instantaneous velocity at the moment of observation.
The Theory of Relativity does not allow us to have concepts of absolute time and space, hence there is no concept of simultaneity and vector concept in multi-dimensional curved space. Current theoretical physics textbooks accept this theory yet still consider simultaneity as natural, deliberately ignoring the absurdity to the point of humor, and then applying Vector Analysis in mathematics to justify, turning theoretical physics into a mess as it is today."
Does anyone agree with me that this thread is becoming a bit SURREAL?
I was obviously too slow off the mark in refuting @Ro808's earlier attachment as Bunk Science:
Replacing good old mass m with the Compton Wavelength lambda is an entirely circular argument since the Compton Wavelength lambda is defined in terms of Mass m.
And it is just a personal opinion as a Standard Model Man, but my old trainers will outlast String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity.
Vis:
And his other tedious and incomprehensible 99 pages of GENERAL THEORY OF SPIN FOR THE UNIVERSE cites only Albert Einstein and nothing more modern as a reference. A Red Flag to me.
In fact I have not found anything he has posted that is not either BUNK or plain WEIRD Science or worse, PHILOSOPHY with which I will have no truck. Have the Lunatics taken over the Asylum?
More pressingly, I think Life on Earth is currently under imminent threat. Pictures worth a Thousand Words, and hover your mouse over the images for further explanation.
Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting near. Bob Dylan said that.
I was obviously too slow off the mark in refuting @Ro808's earlier attachment as Bunk Science:
Replacing good old mass m with the Compton Wavelength lambda is an entirely circular argument since the Compton Wavelength lambda is defined in terms of Mass m.
And it is just a personal opinion as a Standard Model Man, but my old trainers will outlast String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity.
Vis:
And his other tedious and incomprehensible 99 pages of GENERAL THEORY OF SPIN FOR THE UNIVERSE cites only Albert Einstein and nothing more modern as a reference. A Red Flag to me.
In fact I have not found anything he has posted that is not either BUNK or plain WEIRD Science or worse, PHILOSOPHY with which I will have no truck. Have the Lunatics taken over the Asylum?
More pressingly, I think Life on Earth is currently under imminent threat. Pictures worth a Thousand Words, and hover your mouse over the images for further explanation.
Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting near. Bob Dylan said that.
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I was reading about the Earth's inner solid core earlier on today. By the time the core stops rotating and producing the magnetic field that protects us from solar radiation, the Earth will have been swallowed up by the expanding Sun!
Not only are the chances of that asteroid hitting the Earth very low, the chances of it hitting an inhabited region are almost vanishingly small - considering how little of the Earth's surface we actually inhabit and that most of the Earth's surface is covered in water.
So we are safe for now.
However, that could just be the drink talking!
Not only are the chances of that asteroid hitting the Earth very low, the chances of it hitting an inhabited region are almost vanishingly small - considering how little of the Earth's surface we actually inhabit and that most of the Earth's surface is covered in water.
So we are safe for now.
However, that could just be the drink talking!
Some people are so intelligent that they can lose themselves in a theory, no matter how absurd the theory is.
Likewise:
Uncle Bob, obedient to the chief commander😉
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So we are safe for now.
However, that could just be the drink talking!
It takes some experience(s) to face and understand fear. It takes another experience to overcome fear.
Cheers!
@Ro808
Please consider resizing your images to make then smaller on the page. As Steve has said, it appears you are shouting at us.
All you have to do is click on the image in your post, go to its top right hand corner and make use of the resize arrow.
I have resized the above image. Click on it and you should see it appear full size.
P.S. Same could go for many of Steve's images!
EDIT: Ah! Someone has now resized your giant image in post #5,338 - I wonder who?
Please consider resizing your images to make then smaller on the page. As Steve has said, it appears you are shouting at us.
All you have to do is click on the image in your post, go to its top right hand corner and make use of the resize arrow.
I have resized the above image. Click on it and you should see it appear full size.
P.S. Same could go for many of Steve's images!
EDIT: Ah! Someone has now resized your giant image in post #5,338 - I wonder who?
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