B&W CWM650 driver and Vifa D27TG-05-06
Hi, I found two B&W drivers CWM650 and I want to combine them with Vifa D27TG-05-06. This is totaly new for me, I never made loudspeakers. Can U help with box design and suggest the crossover too .
Here it is TS parameters for both drivers:
Vifa D27TG-05-06: http://www.d-s-t.com/vifa/data/d27tg-05-06a.htm
Nominal impedance [ohm] 6
Voice coil resistance [ohm] 4.6
Nominal power [W] 100
Short term max power [W] 400
Long term max power [W] 200
Operating power [W] 3.2
Sensitivity [dB] 92
Frequency range [kHz] 2.5-30
Free air resonance [Hz] 1000
Voice coil diameter [mm] 26
Voice coil height [mm] 1.6
Air gap height [mm] 2
Voice coil inductance [mH] -
Eff. diaphragm Area [cm?] 7.1
Moving mass [g] 0.3
Magnet weight [g]/[oz] 240/8.5
Force factor [Bl] 2.7
VAS [l] 0.006
Qms 2.15
Qes 1.19
Qts 0.77
B&W CWM650:
- Mechanical Parameters -
Fs = 74Hz
Qms = 4,653
Vas = 7,558 liters
Cms = 0,332 mm/N
Mms = 13,95 g
Rms = 1,394 kg/s
P-Dia = 127 mm
Sd = 126,7 sq.cm
- Electrical Parameters -
Qes = 0,824
Re = 3,91 Ohm
Le = 0,328 mH
Z = 4 Ohm
BL = 5.547 Tm
Pe = 60 watts
- Electromech. Parameters -
Qts = 0,7
no = 0,358 %
1-W SPL = 87.69 dB
2.83-V SPL = 90.8 dB
Thanks.
Hi, I found two B&W drivers CWM650 and I want to combine them with Vifa D27TG-05-06. This is totaly new for me, I never made loudspeakers. Can U help with box design and suggest the crossover too .
Here it is TS parameters for both drivers:
Vifa D27TG-05-06: http://www.d-s-t.com/vifa/data/d27tg-05-06a.htm
Nominal impedance [ohm] 6
Voice coil resistance [ohm] 4.6
Nominal power [W] 100
Short term max power [W] 400
Long term max power [W] 200
Operating power [W] 3.2
Sensitivity [dB] 92
Frequency range [kHz] 2.5-30
Free air resonance [Hz] 1000
Voice coil diameter [mm] 26
Voice coil height [mm] 1.6
Air gap height [mm] 2
Voice coil inductance [mH] -
Eff. diaphragm Area [cm?] 7.1
Moving mass [g] 0.3
Magnet weight [g]/[oz] 240/8.5
Force factor [Bl] 2.7
VAS [l] 0.006
Qms 2.15
Qes 1.19
Qts 0.77
B&W CWM650:
- Mechanical Parameters -
Fs = 74Hz
Qms = 4,653
Vas = 7,558 liters
Cms = 0,332 mm/N
Mms = 13,95 g
Rms = 1,394 kg/s
P-Dia = 127 mm
Sd = 126,7 sq.cm
- Electrical Parameters -
Qes = 0,824
Re = 3,91 Ohm
Le = 0,328 mH
Z = 4 Ohm
BL = 5.547 Tm
Pe = 60 watts
- Electromech. Parameters -
Qts = 0,7
no = 0,358 %
1-W SPL = 87.69 dB
2.83-V SPL = 90.8 dB
Thanks.
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Here what i got.Driver is 6,5 inch 130w,8ohm.kevlar membrana.
B&W CWM650:
- Mechanical Parameters -
Fs = 74Hz
Qms = 4,653
Vas = 7,558 liters
Cms = 0,332 mm/N
Mms = 13,95 g
Rms = 1,394 kg/s
P-Dia = 127 mm
Sd = 126,7 sq.cm
- Electrical Parameters -
Qes = 0,824
Re = 3,91 Ohm
Le = 0,328 mH
Z = 4 Ohm
BL = 5.547 Tm
Pe = 60 watts
- Electromech. Parameters -
Qts = 0,7
no = 0,358 %
1-W SPL = 87.69 dB
2.83-V SPL = 90.8 dB
Here what i got.Driver is 6,5 inch 130w,8ohm.kevlar membrana.
B&W CWM650:
- Mechanical Parameters -
Fs = 74Hz
Qms = 4,653
Vas = 7,558 liters
Cms = 0,332 mm/N
Mms = 13,95 g
Rms = 1,394 kg/s
P-Dia = 127 mm
Sd = 126,7 sq.cm
- Electrical Parameters -
Qes = 0,824
Re = 3,91 Ohm
Le = 0,328 mH
Z = 4 Ohm
BL = 5.547 Tm
Pe = 60 watts
- Electromech. Parameters -
Qts = 0,7
no = 0,358 %
1-W SPL = 87.69 dB
2.83-V SPL = 90.8 dB
Greets!
I'm curious where you found these, all I found in a search was an in-wall speaker with just basic specs. Anyway, these are best suited for a relatively large sealed cab or well stuffed (~aperiodic) TL to mimic an IB. Frankly, considering the high Fs, sticking it in a 1-1.5 ft^3 sealed cab is what I'd do. If you want a TL, then Rick's Alpha TL design tuned to ~104 Hz is as good as any for a ~compact cab:
L = 29.21"
CSA (w x d) = 73.613"^2
Stuff to suit, a sim suggests 36 oz distributed along ~80% of the line or a bit more if a more IB like response is desired.
For sure it's not suitable for a Daline. With no Xmax given, no idea what the excursion limited power might be.
GM
I'm curious where you found these, all I found in a search was an in-wall speaker with just basic specs. Anyway, these are best suited for a relatively large sealed cab or well stuffed (~aperiodic) TL to mimic an IB. Frankly, considering the high Fs, sticking it in a 1-1.5 ft^3 sealed cab is what I'd do. If you want a TL, then Rick's Alpha TL design tuned to ~104 Hz is as good as any for a ~compact cab:
L = 29.21"
CSA (w x d) = 73.613"^2
Stuff to suit, a sim suggests 36 oz distributed along ~80% of the line or a bit more if a more IB like response is desired.
For sure it's not suitable for a Daline. With no Xmax given, no idea what the excursion limited power might be.
GM
planet10 said:Nice looking driver (for the yellow kevlar look). Qt is high for any BR enclousre, but the parameters look decent for an alpha TL.
Here is a small spreadsheet GM did for calculating an alpha TL.
dave
Greets!
Oops! I forgot I was supposed to make the spreadsheet more user friendly. Maybe I'll have some time this week. At least it's on my long 'to do' list now.
GM
Another thread using the SAME speaker....
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49041
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49041
BassAwdyO said:Another thread using the SAME speaker....
Note... i have merged the 2 threads together...
dave
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Joined 2002
jleaman said:You need to clean your camera Lens more often..
It is fine in the big picture... you are jumping to conclusions again....
dave
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drVelinov said:If I make alpha TL how much is maximum L with my drivers.
Pics please
GM suggested
L = 29.21"
CSA (w x d) = 73.613"^2
here http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=657390#post657390
The last thing you want to do is make the line too long.
dave
Member
Joined 2002
planet10 said:
It is fine in the big picture... you are jumping to conclusions again....
dave
AHEM..
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