He has blinders (made with obsession) on so he doesn't "see" it.
Dusty,
OCC Metals
You might want to look through this thread. It has posts by representatives of the company. They have supplied some DIYer with smaller amounts.
Enjoy your experimentations!
OCC Metals
You might want to look through this thread. It has posts by representatives of the company. They have supplied some DIYer with smaller amounts.
Enjoy your experimentations!
This is fantastic! A direct connection with the owner would be very cool. His company looks like they take their product and process seriously, and care very much about the quality of the wires they create. This is an awesome resource. Thank you!
heyitsmedusty,
I like to see your diy cables when done. And please list your parts cost. Do not let anybody discourage you from using occ copper wire.
I like to see your diy cables when done. And please list your parts cost. Do not let anybody discourage you from using occ copper wire.
For those who just want to play around 99.9% dead soft fine silver wire is often available at jewelry craft stores. Around here it's $4.20/foot in 20 gauge.
https://www.beadfx.com/catalogue/fi...r-08mm-round-wire-dead-soft-foot-p-13009.html
Then you don't need OCC purity to be concerned with. Just have someone tell you that the cable you bought is highly pure OCC. By the way, I have a
You have to wonder if the trolls know they are trolls.
Let's wait and find out. Troll, can you hear me?
Let's wait and find out. Troll, can you hear me?
To those of you that make your own diy cables. Can you sell your used cables on the Swap Meet? I never see any cables on the Swap Meet.
Well thing is, the scientific standard for ”best sounding” cables simply does not exist. In the known universe. You simply cant objectively measure ”musicality”.
Hence:
A totally tone deaf, brain dead, meat head can say: cables does not matter.
And
A totally tone deaf, brain dead, meat head can say: cables does matter.
And they both be somewhat ”right” 🥰
And i sure do not KNOW. 🙂
Hence:
A totally tone deaf, brain dead, meat head can say: cables does not matter.
And
A totally tone deaf, brain dead, meat head can say: cables does matter.
And they both be somewhat ”right” 🥰
And i sure do not KNOW. 🙂
Perhaps we can raise the bar a tad? While I do not consider myself a "troll", I do have some experience with wires at the 7 nines purity.
Attempting single crystal conductor works great if you do not bend it (as in putting it on a spool). Heat conductivity and electrical conductivity track extremely well, from room temperature down to 1.8 Kelvin (the lowest I go). Bending the conductor to actually use it work hardens the conductor, so it is important to be very wary of how it is bent. edit: one of my customers wanted to use 7 nines copper to make a solenoid that wouldn't dissipate enough heat to quench overlying superconductors (conductivity of copper can increase two orders of magnitude at 4.5K without lattice defects or grain boundaries), I pointed out that the bending of the copper at the 4 inch diameter radius would work harden the wire and kill the conductivity at liquid helium temperatures, an effect that I cannot measure at room temperature.
Quite honestly, it is not the conductivity of the copper that is important, but rather the quality of build.... and, how your grounding is organized.
When I ask the question...how does your signal current return to source.. many have no clue. Ground integrity at the milliohm level, as well as how the ground loop is configured, is the important issue which few understand.
Instead of trying to bait others as "trolls", perhaps raise the bar??
jn
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Mr. Neutron, not sure who is being accused of trolling, those talking about cables (the expressed interest of the OP), or those talking about rooms and speakers?
I concur. However, the use of the term is a detriment to intelligent discourse, which I find offensive.
I am very interested in cables, in localization, image reconstruction, all things audio. As such, I prefer the discussion not degrade.
jn
ps..please call me John..Mr is too formal.
Gotcha. I can respect that.
Very interesting points above about construction and grain boundaries! I also feel that good construction is definitely higher up the hierarchy of cable considerations than purity of wire material, since any benefit from great wire materials would be impossible to discern if there are any other limiting factors in the chain (such as poor construction, bad geometry causing high levels of inductance, poor dialectic, etc).
Rather than call them trolls, maybe there’s a better term? Regardless, there are folks here who do not want to talk about the possible benefits of OCC wire, or where to source good OCC wire material, and would rather try to poo poo on the fine folks who are actually being helpful, like yourself.
What are the benefits of OCC wire for audio application? Lets talk about that.