Excellent recommendation, thank you!Van den Hul makes some very good audio cables, if merchants are what you want. Not cheap though.
https://www.vandenhul.com/product-category/cables/
If looking for something more affordable, consider Canare, Belden, Mogami, etc., 'Star Quad' type cable. The way the conductors are arranged is effective for canceling unwanted LF coupling with external fields. It also reduces cable inductance which can be good for speaker cables, at least according to some measurements and listening tests in this very forum.
I explained in the very next sentence, "search for the last bit of fidelity" and your reply ignored that. Nice.I literally just said I also want to have fun making cables, and your reply is that cables are the wrong area to look into.
Nice.
Then nothing wrong with people asking why.I’m not even saying that OCC cables are better. I’m saying I’d like to source some OCC wire because it’s what I want to try in my own designs.
Consider that for a second. I am on “DIY Audio” asking a question about sourcing some DIY materials so I can DIY some audio cables.
Where did you see the haters? Or you meant "haters"?I wonder if your way to kind responding to the haters?
I thought you were "trying to eke out the last bit of fidelity". You know what fidelity means in sound reproduction, right? In case you don't, it's not "I like the way it sounds more". There are tons of info online on high fidelity in sound reproduction.I’m not doing any measurements. I’m not a scientist. I’m a hobbyist and I’m just looking to see if I like the way my system sounds with cables made with OCC wire, and a good way to do that is to make some cables with OCC wire.
The whole theory could be bunk, but since I’m the only one who spends any real time with my system, and my enjoyment is purely subjective, the only thing that really matters is if I like the way it sounds more.
If it pleases the gallery, I can put together a highly rigid and scientific scale to score my emotions as I use the OCC wires. I mean hell, that’s basically what Stereophile or any of those other hifi publications do!
End of the day, I’m just looking to try this material on some cables. And maybe I like them. I just wanted to find reputable dealers so I can trust that it’s the right material as I make them
YES! Now that's the kind of recommendation I'm looking for!Here is another source you might want to try:
Flying Fish Metal Material
Can you quote those listening tests on this very forum?at least according to some measurements and listening tests in this very forum.
You seem to be getting caught up in semantics, but in fact it's very, very, very simple: I want to make nice cables, and I want to use OCC wire in my construction. I'd like to the system to reveal some more fidelity to my ears, create some more enjoyment for myself, be pleasing for my own experience.I thought you were "trying to eke out the last bit of fidelity". You know what fidelity means in sound reproduction, right? In case you don't, it's not "I like the way it sounds more". There are tons of info online on high fidelity in sound reproduction.
That's it. It's easy. I'm not trying to maximize anything other than my enjoyment in the hobby, which is subjective. The fidelity that I hear is subjective. This is a very complex thing to understand if you work it around in your head too much. So stop doing that. It's a very simple concept. This is a hobby that I enjoy, and I'm able to enjoy it without encumbering myself with the semantics of it.
My system sounds great to me, and to every single person who has had the chance to listen to it, as far as they've reported. I enjoy tweaking stuff and listening for differences. That's it. It's easy!
You didn't state it that way early on. This isn't face to face exchange. Internet forum is a very inefficient way to communicate and specificity with words is a must if you want to be understood correctly.I'd like to the system to reveal some more fidelity to my ears, create some more enjoyment for myself, be pleasing for my own experience.
That's it. It's easy. I'm not trying to maximize anything other than my enjoyment in the hobby, which is subjective. The fidelity that I hear is subjective. This is a very complex thing to understand if you work it around in your head too much. So stop doing that. It's a very simple concept. This is a hobby that I enjoy, and I'm able to enjoy it without encumbering myself with the semantics of it.
And I suggested to you that the most bang for the buck is in the speakers and room acoustics.I enjoy tweaking stuff and listening for differences.
If it really is easy, this thread would have died out on page 1.That's it. It's easy!
Thank you for your suggestions!You didn't state it that way early on. This isn't face to face exchange. Internet forum is a very inefficient way to communicate and specificity with words is a must if you want to be understood correctly.
And I suggested to you that the most bang for the buck is in the speakers and room acoustics.
If it really is easy, this thread would have died out on page 1.
I may not have made it clear in the initial post, but what I'm looking for is sources for OCC wire to make some cables. My request really is that easy!
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I have sent them an inquiry for some meters of wire, but from my initial search it looks like their minimum order quantity is 100M, which is way beyond what I'd need. 🙁Here is another source you might want to try:
Flying Fish Metal Material
Blue Jeans does sell in foot increments. I do not know if they stock what you are looking for.
I use some Blue Jeans cables in my system, and I love their no-nonsense products, very high quality stuff. Unfortunately, they don't sell OCC wire from what I can tell.Blue Jeans does sell in foot increments. I do not know if they stock what you are looking for.
Lol, thank you for your concern Evenharmonics! <3It may or may not help you but what I sense is an obsession. It can be bad for you.
I actually have a ton of obsessions. I tend to call them "hobbies" and "passions," but I won't fall into that semantic trap again, as I've heard specificity with words is a must! And so far my passions have enriched my life rather than hindered it. Audio, pinball, photography, cooking, music; these are my rabbit holes and I enjoy them greatly.
You can definitely be bad for me. I hope you've used your words correctly in that message. 😉I can be bad for you, depends on which rabbit hole you fall in. Audio cable is one of them.
I mentioned speakers and room acoustics at least twice and so far it completely escaped you. So much for "I enjoy tweaking stuff and listening for differences." Good luck chasing phantom.You can definitely be bad for me.
Thank you for the suggestions!I mentioned speakers and room acoustics at least twice and so far it completely escaped you. So much for "I enjoy tweaking stuff and listening for differences." Good luck chasing phantom.
I may not have been clear, but on this thread, I am looking for advice on where to source OCC wire for constructing cables.
He is telling you that it will be more rewarding for you to improve the room acoustics and speakers.
Cables are just time pass, as we say here.
If you want a better sound, improve those things first rather than thinking this or that type of cable is better.
Best acoustics I heard were a system running in a lending library, the walls were lined with books on wooden shelves, near perfect anechoic surfaces.
Add a thick carpet, and acoustic roof tiles.
Shoo away family.
Enjoy in solitude.
Cables are just time pass, as we say here.
If you want a better sound, improve those things first rather than thinking this or that type of cable is better.
Best acoustics I heard were a system running in a lending library, the walls were lined with books on wooden shelves, near perfect anechoic surfaces.
Add a thick carpet, and acoustic roof tiles.
Shoo away family.
Enjoy in solitude.
Those are good suggestions for tweaking the sound of a system, for sure! Thank you.He is telling you that it will be more rewarding for you to improve the room acoustics and speakers.
Cables are just time pass, as we say here.
If you want a better sound, improve those things first rather than thinking this or that type of cable is better.
Best acoustics I heard were a system running in a lending library, the walls were lined with books on wooden shelves, near perfect anechoic surfaces.
Add a thick carpet, and acoustic roof tiles.
Shoo away family.
Enjoy in solitude.
I have acoustic treatments in my room, and my speakers are very good solid vintage speakers (Thiel 3.6). I very much like the sound of my system in those regards currently, and I'd like to work within those parameters, unchanged in this case.
On this thread, I'm looking for help sourcing some materials to DIY some cables. Specifically, OCC copper from trusted merchants.
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